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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 11, 2024 13:36:11 GMT -5
Maybe someone should enlighten your Dear Leader:
"Speaking to a crowd of supporters in Doral, Florida, a western suburb of Miami, the former president vowed not to cut benefits as November's general election looms. "I will not cut one penny from Social Security or Medicare," he said. "And I will not raise the retirement age by one day."
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If he did any of that you would scream worse.
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
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Post by osprey11 on Jul 11, 2024 13:37:44 GMT -5
Felt that way about Costa Rica years ago. Almost bought property there. Glad I didn't place has changed so much. Cost more to live there than here now.
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 13:48:36 GMT -5
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If he did any of that you would scream worse.
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
Yes, and I hope you would be in favor of anything he would propose along those lines whether it were a complete plan or not. Some were asking why the Republicans don't show their health care plan although they were working on health care reform.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 11, 2024 14:58:07 GMT -5
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
Yes, and I hope you would be in favor of anything he would propose along those lines whether it were a complete plan or not. Some were asking why the Republicans don't show their health care plan although they were working on health care reform. Republicans have no Healthcare or budget plan. No one cares, seriously
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 11, 2024 15:23:44 GMT -5
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
Yes, and I hope you would be in favor of anything he would propose along those lines whether it were a complete plan or not. Some were asking why the Republicans don't show their health care plan although they were working on health care reform.
His proposal: "I will not cut one penny from Social Security or Medicare. And I will not raise the retirement age by one day."
His health care plan: "We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe."
I think he tried that once before. Repeal without a replacement plan.
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 15:28:34 GMT -5
Yes, and I hope you would be in favor of anything he would propose along those lines whether it were a complete plan or not. Some were asking why the Republicans don't show their health care plan although they were working on health care reform.
His proposal: "I will not cut one penny from Social Security or Medicare. And I will not raise the retirement age by one day."
His health care plan: "We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe."
I think he tried that once before. Repeal without a replacement plan.
No, he was working on it . McCain turned his back on the Country because he had a beef with Trump . He voted against what he was on record as being for. There may have come a time to repeal Obamacare but some things needed to be in place first.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 11, 2024 15:37:33 GMT -5
His proposal: "I will not cut one penny from Social Security or Medicare. And I will not raise the retirement age by one day."
His health care plan: "We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe."
I think he tried that once before. Repeal without a replacement plan.
No, he was working on it . McCain turned his back on the Country because he had a beef with Trump . He voted against what he was on record as being for. There may have come a time to repeal Obamacare but some things needed to be in place first. Yeah, like a fucking plan to replace it with!!
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 15:48:18 GMT -5
Yeah, like a fucking plan to replace it with!! No, problems in health care can be addresses on an individual basis. Biden didn't takes Trumps advice and tackle prescription drug prices as an individual issue . A person had to accept trillions of dollars of debt or Biden said fuck you and your prescription costs.
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 11, 2024 18:16:11 GMT -5
" Perhaps the most dramatic example of a country needlessly ruined by “welfare” policies is Uruguay. Here is a country only about a third larger than the state of Wisconsin, with a population of just under 3 million. Yet that population is predominantly of European origin, with a literacy rate estimated at 90 percent. This country once was distinguished among the nations of Latin America for its high living standards and good management. " " What is so discouraging about the example of Uruguay is not only that its welfare programs persisted, but that they became more extreme in spite of the successive disasters to which they led. " fee.org/articles/uruguay-welfare-state-gone-wild/ i guess you could retire in a condo on delray beach for 3/4 to a million bucks no thanks. you would need 3 million plus dollars here to do what i was hoping to do there for under five hundred thousand. talking about retiring. compared to many places in the usa its heaven and very affordable and safe. if i wasnt married id been there 15 years ago. to each his own. The fact Im married is the reason I want to go. If my kids were grown I'd leave. And she could stay here and stay stuck up her retarded sisters ass
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 11, 2024 19:00:45 GMT -5
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If he did any of that you would scream worse.
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
Social security is not an entitlement I have paid into for years more than I will ever get back
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Post by cadman on Jul 11, 2024 19:24:03 GMT -5
Nonsense. I've advocated for entitlement reform for years, and publicly on this forum. In fact, since before there was even an FS Forum.
If Trump came out with a plan to do that, I'd probably even vote for him. That's how important the issue is for me (and I believe for the country).
Social security is not an entitlement I have paid into for years more than I will ever get back Sounds like you feel entitled to it. 🙂
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 12, 2024 13:24:50 GMT -5
His proposal: "I will not cut one penny from Social Security or Medicare. And I will not raise the retirement age by one day."
His health care plan: "We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe."
I think he tried that once before. Repeal without a replacement plan.
No, he was working on it . McCain turned his back on the Country because he had a beef with Trump . He voted against what he was on record as being for. There may have come a time to repeal Obamacare but some things needed to be in place first.
The point being, Trump tried to repeal it without a clue of how to replace it.
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Post by toldya on Jul 12, 2024 13:30:53 GMT -5
The point being, Trump tried to repeal it without a clue of how to replace it.
When ?
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Post by nuevowavo on Jul 12, 2024 13:41:56 GMT -5
The point being, Trump tried to repeal it without a clue of how to replace it.
When ?
Troll.
He campaigned on it: He pledged to repeal it, saying it would take a long time, with a replacement possibly not being ready until 2018.
His first day in office, the Dear Leader signed an executive order (!) 13813 to begin defunding the ACA. And on from there...
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Post by toldya on Jul 12, 2024 13:59:50 GMT -5
Troll.
He campaigned on it: He pledged to repeal it, saying it would take a long time, with a replacement possibly not being ready until 2018.
His first day in office, the Dear Leader signed an executive order (!) 13813 to begin defunding the ACA. And on from there...
You said he tried to repeal it and now you are saying he pledged to. That's 2 different things. What he did do was eliminate the mandate . He was also working on reform when McCain voted against what McCain was on record as being for. So, Trump was on the right track .
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