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Post by toldya on Jul 10, 2024 21:42:44 GMT -5
Why does your irrational fear of one man (is he really that powerful?) Trump (opps, sorry ) It's not an irrational fear at all. He never had real power prior to being elected, and thank heaven he was so very unprepared. He knew next to nothing, and didn't know squat about the tools that were available. If he gets another term, his loony-tune minions will run rampant. ( No doubt Trump has his own chapter in the DSM-5 ) The Republican party thought he would be another malleable piece of meat. They got Reagan to go through the motions, and stay on script, so why not? Instead, they got a megalomaniac who believes his own publicity. Trump was the ultimate "product placement". Every single word that was heard, every scene of The Apprentice, was a setup. Nothing was "real" ... it was all concocted to catch and keep audience attention. The people behind it had years of experience selling "dirty documentary" to the public. Trump played the part well ... though actually a business bust, he leaned into the role. A large chunk of middle America bought it ... the same as a favorite pro wrestler. It turns out that Trump was worse than a bad businessman. His bankruptcies and unpaid bills, to contractors and attorneys, were legend. He cheated on state and federal taxes, and used illegal schemes to raise rents. Most white-collar fraudsters keep two sets of books ... Trump kept three! Trump thinks that he can keep on getting away with it. Well have to wait and see. Again nothing specific about his policies and no mention of anything that was harmful to America. I'm not surprised though as you are just another game player here .
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 10, 2024 22:00:26 GMT -5
A few specific and harmful things off the top of my rational head: How about record debt increase in a presidential term? How about net job loss? How about record trade deficit? How about the induced riot?
Would you like more?
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 10, 2024 22:13:38 GMT -5
On the healthcare issue- One of the last things Trump was working on was lowering prescription drug cost. Trump was trying to do it in a way that other things could not be added on. Biden passed a plan but it was thrown in with things that had nothing to do with healthcare, just a tag along to help get his agenda passed. People didn't really gain anything in the long run and I haven't googled to see what they actually got. As for the Republicans not having a competing health care plan- The Trump admin was working on and reforming health care in steps. The first step would have passed but McCain turned his back on the American people by voting no because he had a beef with Trump. What he voted no on was what he is on record as being for. But this stuff gets tossed about by 12 year olds like BT playing a game . 100% unadulterated bullshit alternative realty. He swore up and down for years that we'd see the plan in two weeks. Take that crap somewhere else, I suggest back to Foxtard fantasy land.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 10, 2024 22:37:36 GMT -5
TDS
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Post by toldya on Jul 10, 2024 22:42:09 GMT -5
On the healthcare issue- One of the last things Trump was working on was lowering prescription drug cost. Trump was trying to do it in a way that other things could not be added on. Biden passed a plan but it was thrown in with things that had nothing to do with healthcare, just a tag along to help get his agenda passed. People didn't really gain anything in the long run and I haven't googled to see what they actually got. As for the Republicans not having a competing health care plan- The Trump admin was working on and reforming health care in steps. The first step would have passed but McCain turned his back on the American people by voting no because he had a beef with Trump. What he voted no on was what he is on record as being for. But this stuff gets tossed about by 12 year olds like BT playing a game . 100% unadulterated bullshit alternative realty. He swore up and down for years that we'd see the plan in two weeks. Take that crap somewhere else, I suggest back to Foxtard fantasy land. Even if he said what you claim ( perhaps you could post it in context ) that would have no bearing on what I said and you quoted. Another one of your twisted responses .
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 10, 2024 22:45:48 GMT -5
Sad that the addled cultist mind can even remember reality.
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Post by toldya on Jul 10, 2024 22:52:35 GMT -5
A few specific and harmful things off the top of my rational head: How about record debt increase in a presidential term? How about net job loss? How about record trade deficit? How about the induced riot?
Would you like more? Some of those would include Covid related issues and I would not give them much weight if they are true. I'm not familiar with an induced riot .
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Post by tonyroma on Jul 10, 2024 22:54:12 GMT -5
On the healthcare issue- One of the last things Trump was working on was lowering prescription drug cost. Trump was trying to do it in a way that other things could not be added on. Biden passed a plan but it was thrown in with things that had nothing to do with healthcare, just a tag along to help get his agenda passed. People didn't really gain anything in the long run and I haven't googled to see what they actually got. As for the Republicans not having a competing health care plan- The Trump admin was working on and reforming health care in steps. The first step would have passed but McCain turned his back on the American people by voting no because he had a beef with Trump. What he voted no on was what he is on record as being for. But this stuff gets tossed about by 12 year olds like BT playing a game . THT and the knitting Forum were correct.
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Post by toldya on Jul 10, 2024 23:25:19 GMT -5
On the healthcare issue- One of the last things Trump was working on was lowering prescription drug cost. Trump was trying to do it in a way that other things could not be added on. Biden passed a plan but it was thrown in with things that had nothing to do with healthcare, just a tag along to help get his agenda passed. People didn't really gain anything in the long run and I haven't googled to see what they actually got. As for the Republicans not having a competing health care plan- The Trump admin was working on and reforming health care in steps. The first step would have passed but McCain turned his back on the American people by voting no because he had a beef with Trump. What he voted no on was what he is on record as being for. But this stuff gets tossed about by 12 year olds like BT playing a game . THT and the knitting Forum were correct. You're baiting me . Everybody likes a good story but no soup for you .
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Post by Tarponator on Jul 11, 2024 0:23:10 GMT -5
A few specific and harmful things off the top of my rational head: How about record debt increase in a presidential term? How about net job loss? How about record trade deficit? How about the induced riot?
Would you like more? Some of those would include Covid related issues and I would not give them much weight if they are true. I'm not familiar with an induced riot .
They are all true, and of course you wouldn't give them much weight, as being a huffing cultist I would expect no less. Even more you say?
How about GDP growth never above 3% in his first three years? Covid had nothing to do with that.
How about the number of people without health insurance dropping by 3 million? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about manufacturing job growth stopping in early 2019? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about coal production and coal jobs both dropping across his term? Covid had nothing to do with that.
"Induced riot" was me being nice about the events of January 6th, incidentally. He is still on trial for it, in case you had not heard or have otherwise repressed the facts of the matter.
Would you like more specific harm, bannable boy, or have you had enough for now?
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 1:04:14 GMT -5
๐
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Post by toldya on Jul 11, 2024 5:57:33 GMT -5
Some of those would include Covid related issues and I would not give them much weight if they are true. I'm not familiar with an induced riot .
They are all true, and of course you wouldn't give them much weight, as being a huffing cultist I would expect no less. Even more you say?
How about GDP growth never above 3% in his first three years? Covid had nothing to do with that.
How about the number of people without health insurance dropping by 3 million? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about manufacturing job growth stopping in early 2019? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about coal production and coal jobs both dropping across his term? Covid had nothing to do with that.
"Induced riot" was me being nice about the events of January 6th, incidentally. He is still on trial for it, in case you had not heard or have otherwise repressed the facts of the matter.
Would you like more specific harm, bannable boy, or have you had enough for now?
I'll stand by my response.
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Post by richm on Jul 11, 2024 6:05:35 GMT -5
Some of those would include Covid related issues and I would not give them much weight if they are true. I'm not familiar with an induced riot .
They are all true, and of course you wouldn't give them much weight, as being a huffing cultist I would expect no less. Even more you say?
How about GDP growth never above 3% in his first three years? Covid had nothing to do with that.
How about the number of people without health insurance dropping by 3 million? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about manufacturing job growth stopping in early 2019? Covid had nothing to do with that. How about coal production and coal jobs both dropping across his term? Covid had nothing to do with that.
"Induced riot" was me being nice about the events of January 6th, incidentally. He is still on trial for it, in case you had not heard or have otherwise repressed the facts of the matter.
Would you like more specific harm, bannable boy, or have you had enough for now?
Aside from his tax thing, Trump's presidency didn't affect me. The non-stop media attacks were incredible. Russia Russia Russia and it was all a hoax. Also bothered me that, while id on;t like the vax, that they held it a couple of weeks until after the election where Biden won in the middle of the night after they turned off the computers and reset the numbers. Biden on the other hand has affected me. My grocery bill doubled. The safety of our nation is threatened by 12 million "immigrants". The media protects him no matter what. Lawfare. Real record spending. I'm just not into all the talking points that don't really pan out like the job loss and spending from Covid. Biden did mandate the vax and forced a lot of otherwise healthy folks to get something they didn't want, cause he could. I'd like to see Trump get it again, not cause I'm a minion but because of all the bullshit he endured. He's earned the spot at the table and now he knows the rules. Should be interesting.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jul 11, 2024 6:32:32 GMT -5
Biden ๐
Trump๐
That about sums it up
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Post by johngalt on Jul 11, 2024 8:59:32 GMT -5
A few specific and harmful things off the top of my rational head: How about record debt increase in a presidential term? How about net job loss? How about record trade deficit? How about the induced riot?
Would you like more? But you were so scared of the China virus. If Trump or any president for that matter would have ignored all the so called โExpertsโ you and the rest of the panic filled populace would have demanded his execution. You got what you deserved. ๐
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