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Post by nikonoclast on Jul 3, 2024 17:38:46 GMT -5
Putin has the ability to end it today. Just go home. The ability, yes ... But the desire to end it, no. Not yet ... One sarcastic pundit said it in stark terms two years ago: "With control of Crimea, Russia is an empire." "But without Crimea, ... Russia is a gas-station." How will he cling to power? He has no leverage over the oligarchs who now reside in Israel. His only chance is ... Trump ... Flat out ... that's the only way he comes away with "victory".
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Post by PolarsStepdad on Jul 3, 2024 17:40:05 GMT -5
russia claiming people and children killed on the beach by american missles with american guidance/satellites. russia is talking major shit this past week, of course our media has said nothing. maybe im wrong guess we will see. China now owns Russia. China will not put up with Russia starting a war with NATO or America or Europe. China supplies Russia with 90% of it needs to build weapons and buys most of its oil and gas. China ain't going to like Russia screwing with its biggest customers and would cut Russia off, shutting down Russia's economy. China is now in the position to control Putin and they know it. China likes the little war in Ukraine as they benefit from it economically. But a larger war would hurt China's economy and that they won't tolerate. Putin wants out of this war, but he needs to save face due to all the soldiers dying and money spent. Finland said "China could end the war in Ukraine with one phone call"
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Post by luapnor on Jul 3, 2024 18:42:20 GMT -5
Tell us how that unfolds without nukes getting launched. Putin is not stupid, he's not launching nukes and ensuring the total annihilation of Russia. Putin is totally outgunned by NATO. Outgunned for sure
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Post by ferris1248 on Jul 3, 2024 19:03:47 GMT -5
China now owns Russia. China will not put up with Russia starting a war with NATO or America or Europe. China supplies Russia with 90% of it needs to build weapons and buys most of its oil and gas. China ain't going to like Russia screwing with its biggest customers and would cut Russia off, shutting down Russia's economy. China is now in the position to control Putin and they know it. China likes the little war in Ukraine as they benefit from it economically. But a larger war would hurt China's economy and that they won't tolerate. Putin wants out of this war, but he needs to save face due to all the soldiers dying and money spent. i hope your right, from what ive heard from someone wayyy smarter then me putin wants it over , ukraine wants it over. the usa and nato dont. Was that luapnor?
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Post by luapnor on Jul 3, 2024 19:20:06 GMT -5
russia and nato war is about to explode, not gonna be good for anyone. well except all the democrats and most of the republicans and the rest of you defenders of democrasy. Zelensky will be dead by the end of the year, either by his own citizens or the CIA. It's the only way out of this mess Biden and Johnson created.
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 3, 2024 19:44:00 GMT -5
March 2019
“Tesla will be out of business in 2years or less”
Nostradumbass
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Post by biminitwisted on Jul 3, 2024 23:37:18 GMT -5
I made peace with the doctrine of Mutual assured destruction (MAD), in the late 70's. There nothing a Putin loving Internet dipshit is going to say that will make me even give it a passing thought.
Keep in mind, these are the same people that were rooting for and predicting a recession that never came. They have to have some constant nonsense to spout, this is just the flavor of the week.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 4, 2024 6:42:20 GMT -5
i hope your right, from what ive heard from someone wayyy smarter then me putin wants it over , ukraine wants it over. the usa and nato dont. Both Russia and Ukraine have stated the terms they need to end the war. They are not even close to an agreement. Putin wants Ukraine territory and Ukraine says they will give him none. The U.S. and NATO has backed Ukraine's position so far. Russia leaves Ukraine, the war ends. If squatters took over half your house and refused to leave, would you agree to let them have the living room to end the argument or would you kick them out? Russia has taken over part of Ukraine's house and Ukraine wants to kick them out. Russia will not leave the Donbas region or Crimea.
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Post by johngalt on Jul 4, 2024 6:51:50 GMT -5
Tell us how that unfolds without nukes getting launched. Putin is not stupid, he's not launching nukes and ensuring the total annihilation of Russia. Putin is totally outgunned by NATO. Why would NATO step in? As long as this war is confined to Ukraine everyone is happy. The only reason China is siding with Russia is because it keeps the US and Europe tied up both financially and economically.
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Post by dragonbait on Jul 4, 2024 7:46:48 GMT -5
The reason China is helping Russia is for cheap resources
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Post by cadman on Jul 4, 2024 7:47:02 GMT -5
russia and nato war is about to explode, not gonna be good for anyone. well except all the democrats and most of the republicans and the rest of you defenders of democrasy. Zelensky will be dead by the end of the year, either by his own citizens or the CIA. It's the only way out of this mess Biden and Johnson created. You said that last year and he didn't die. I bet you will be that saying next year, the year after that, the year after that, ....., until he finally dies of old age and then claim you were right.
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Post by cadman on Jul 4, 2024 7:53:33 GMT -5
The reason China is helping Russia is for cheap resources Yep, it is an economic advantage for China to let the war go on. They get oil and NG and a substantial discount and overcharge for the stuff they sell Russia since Europe and the U.S. won't do business with Russia.
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Post by luapnor on Jul 4, 2024 8:29:02 GMT -5
The reason China is helping Russia is for cheap resources Yep, it is an economic advantage for China to let the war go on. They get oil and NG and a substantial discount and overcharge for the stuff they sell Russia since Europe and the U.S. won't do business with Russia. So what is NATO's reason for letting the war go on? Why do they interfere in the lives of millions of ukrainians? Why couldn't NATO respect Russian security concerns? After being lied to about Bidens condition for 3 years, you think you know the truth? Russia isn't giving up any territory paid for with Russian blood. NATO will not win a war with Russia. If you think NATO should get involved directly, like some idiots here, you will watch the war come to America. If we keep upping the involvement, we will see it come to America. You better hope zalensky dies before it's too late...
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Post by cadman on Jul 4, 2024 10:37:09 GMT -5
Yep, it is an economic advantage for China to let the war go on. They get oil and NG and a substantial discount and overcharge for the stuff they sell Russia since Europe and the U.S. won't do business with Russia. So what is NATO's reason for letting the war go on? Why do they interfere in the lives of millions of ukrainians? Why couldn't NATO respect Russian security concerns? After being lied to about Bidens condition for 3 years, you think you know the truth? Russia isn't giving up any territory paid for with Russian blood. NATO will not win a war with Russia. If you think NATO should get involved directly, like some idiots here, you will watch the war come to America. If we keep upping the involvement, we will see it come to America. You better hope zalensky dies before it's too late... Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukraine fought back. Russia and Ukraine has to decide to end fighting, not NATO. Ukraine wants Russia out of their country and will not stop fighting until that happens. This has nothing to do with Russian security. This is Putin invading a sovereign nation he had no right to invade. He needs to get out of Ukraine. As soon as he leaves, the war will end. Why should Ukraine give up territory defended with Ukrainian blood. You are nothing but a Putin loving Russian puppet. Why don't you just move to mother Russia, you love it and Putin so much.
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Post by garycoleco on Jul 4, 2024 12:12:27 GMT -5
Yep, it is an economic advantage for China to let the war go on. They get oil and NG and a substantial discount and overcharge for the stuff they sell Russia since Europe and the U.S. won't do business with Russia. So what is NATO's reason for letting the war go on? War generates a mountain of money and no one gives a fuck about anyone other than themselves. Who cares is random mothers, fathers, and children die as long as it's not yours....
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