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Post by tonyroma on Jun 27, 2024 23:51:31 GMT -5
The talking heads are not happy with slow Joe performance... Best quote...old man vs con man! I doubt anyone was happy with Biden's performance. His team is probably working overtime to spin this. He looked bad. I doubt he lost voters, but the problem is, he needed to win voters and he failed in that. Oh no, he lost voters. I forced my 17 year old and 20 year old to watch it. By the end they asked me is there anyone else we can vote for.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 28, 2024 1:49:27 GMT -5
"Draft Michelle"
A new Democratic ticket:
Michelle Obama / Katie Porter
Michelle for president, and Katy for attack dog VP !
Is there a single Republican VP nominee who could debate Katie Porter?
Michelle Obama could wipe the floor with Trump face to face.
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Post by bswiv on Jun 28, 2024 4:34:24 GMT -5
"Draft Michelle"A new Democratic ticket: Michelle Obama / Katie Porter
Michelle for president, and Katy for attack dog VP ! Is there a single Republican VP nominee who could debate Katie Porter? Michelle Obama could wipe the floor with Trump face to face. Who does the drafting? Would that be power brokers, big financial donors, "special interest" players? Or are you suggesting that Team D, with its known adherence to "democracy", run the whole thing by the VOTERS again? And do know......I happen to agree with the notion that it is the RIGHT of a PRIVATE ENTITY, a club in essence, for that "club" a "club" calling itself The Democratic Party to chose who it puts up for selection or rejection by the public for a office in a election. Team R has the same right. The problem is that both Team R & Team D have coopted the apparatuses of the various states such that the states in general run its process of selecting candidates it will run in a general election. I could go on about this a while..........but the fact of this situation is that THE PUBLIC now believes that somehow what happens in a primary is something it is not, that it is a PUBLIC choice much as is a general election, which it is not. Still......you will have to convince THE PUBLIC that those players and leaders of the "club" are entitled to swap out a candidate ( They are. ) because the "club" now thinks the candidate is not the right one for whatever reason. But you have to be careful here as you've been playing the "democracy" card hard and it's a good bet at least a few members of Team D will decide that the insiders and the power brokers decision to replace is not "democracy"......... Lord is politics fun!
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Post by oldbastard on Jun 28, 2024 4:52:25 GMT -5
I was going to post something snarky but it's just to sad.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 28, 2024 5:00:49 GMT -5
Well, that confirmed it for me.
We have a liar/ conman and a senile old man trying be the next president of the US.
Neither appeal to me.
As said, it's sad.
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Post by Captj on Jun 28, 2024 5:12:33 GMT -5
Sad. Very sad.
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Post by garycoleco on Jun 28, 2024 5:41:55 GMT -5
Big Mike.....
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Post by oldbastard on Jun 28, 2024 5:55:31 GMT -5
Well, that confirmed it for me. We have a liar/ conman and a senile old man trying be the next president of the US. Neither appeal to me. As said, it's sad. And it's their own damn fault.
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Post by cadman on Jun 28, 2024 5:57:21 GMT -5
"Draft Michelle"A new Democratic ticket: Michelle Obama / Katie Porter
Michelle for president, and Katy for attack dog VP ! Is there a single Republican VP nominee who could debate Katie Porter? Michelle Obama could wipe the floor with Trump face to face. Who does the drafting? Would that be power brokers, big financial donors, "special interest" players? Or are you suggesting that Team D, with its known adherence to "democracy", run the whole thing by the VOTERS again? And do know......I happen to agree with the notion that it is the RIGHT of a PRIVATE ENTITY, a club in essence, for that "club" a "club" calling itself The Democratic Party to chose who it puts up for selection or rejection by the public for a office in a election. Team R has the same right. The problem is that both Team R & Team D have coopted the apparatuses of the various states such that the states in general run its process of selecting candidates it will run in a general election. I could go on about this a while..........but the fact of this situation is that THE PUBLIC now believes that somehow what happens in a primary is something it is not, that it is a PUBLIC choice much as is a general election, which it is not. Still......you will have to convince THE PUBLIC that those players and leaders of the "club" are entitled to swap out a candidate ( They are. ) because the "club" now thinks the candidate is not the right one for whatever reason. But you have to be careful here as you've been playing the "democracy" card hard and it's a good bet at least a few members of Team D will decide that the insiders and the power brokers decision to replace is not "democracy"......... Lord is politics fun! Biden could voluntarily step down due to health reasons and release his delegates. That would open the convention to nominations without need for new primaries. The problem with that is, there isn't another Democrat strong enough to rally the troops and right the ship. Trump will not agree to debate any replacement, since it would only hurt him. He would attack replacing Biden and make the Dems look weak. Trump's holding all the cards right now after last night.
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Post by gandy on Jun 28, 2024 6:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by oldbastard on Jun 28, 2024 6:17:38 GMT -5
Dems need to let it go. Stop the lies and attacks on their opponents and maybe next time there will be two candidates America can live with. Same as the MSM, just report the facts instead of the insane bias.
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Post by gandy on Jun 28, 2024 6:21:30 GMT -5
1st edit (cheap fake) I see when turning on the news this morning.
B: In one of his most coherent moments, This man is a lying. Cut to the moment after one of B's most incoherent moments. T: I can't understand a thing he just said. Return to news anchor.
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Post by olmucky on Jun 28, 2024 6:49:21 GMT -5
I take back what I said
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Post by cadman on Jun 28, 2024 6:56:05 GMT -5
I doubt anyone was happy with Biden's performance. His team is probably working overtime to spin this. He looked bad. I doubt he lost voters, but the problem is, he needed to win voters and he failed in that. Oh no, he lost voters. I forced my 17 year old and 20 year old to watch it. By the end they asked me is there anyone else we can vote for. Let me rephrase what I said and I think I alluded to in another post. Biden did not lose any voters to Trump. I think, as your kids said, "is there anyone else". I think the number of people who joined my camp of not voting for either one increased last night. Trump's support numbers, I don't think will change much, maybe 1 or 2 points at best. Biden's poll numbers will drop and third party will increase after last. That might be the solution for the Democrats. Leave Biden on the ticket as the Dem nominee, but put up a third party candidate and throw the $200 million you got to him and get the big money donors to push a third party nominee. Republicans could do the same, but they are all scared of Trump. A good third party might even move some big money Republicans over to support him/her. This might be the opening somebody like Joe Manchin was looking for to jump into the race.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 28, 2024 7:03:26 GMT -5
It had to be intentional for the handlers to allow Biden to do this. Now they can hand pick his replacement now that the primaries are over. The dem voters never get a choice.
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