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Post by jmarkb on Jun 24, 2024 20:45:30 GMT -5
There's probably more bears in populated areas than there are in the boonies. No not really... The bears in populated areas get seen a lot.... Very few people go to the boonies to look for bears..... and it depends on time of year....I am not a fan of photographing suburban bears...... But summer is not the time....In the fall if I do not photograph 7 to 10 bears (if I photograph that many I saw twice that many) between sunrise and about noon.... I had a bad day..... I have also tried to photograph suburban bears in suburban areas on garbage pickup day.... My best day was two bears... Johnny we got tons of bears here. they got plenty of woods to hide in, and an easy walk to the trash can buffet. |
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 24, 2024 21:01:12 GMT -5
Of course they will... A bear can get more calories in a single visit to a trash can out on the street than they can get in two or three weeks in the woods...
Some of most entertaining bear moments I have had... Have been sitting with my boss (he recently retired) (he lives just south of Wekiva) sitting in his front yard, drinking beer...And watching the bears knock around the bear proof trash cans that his HOA required.... Those trash cans cost about 2 grand... And they were lucky to get a year out of them... It is hilarious and his grandkids laugh at me...
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Post by TRTerror on Jun 24, 2024 21:13:30 GMT -5
YUP...Same as a 22 in their ass...
Fear me a bit and we'll get along just fine. Think my house is your buffet , Your in a world of hurt.
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 24, 2024 22:08:45 GMT -5
YUP...Same as a 22 in their ass... Fear me a bit and we'll get along just fine. Think my house is your buffet , Your in a world of hurt. No... You completely do not get it....
I know you are too stupid to understand.... And you are probably not shooting bears in the ass.... You just think if you claim to do so it makes you some sort of redneck badass... It does not.... I thought you were more of a woodsman than that.... only a scared of the dark sissy would shoot a bear in the ass...
And the only way to shoot of a bear in the ass if it was running away from you.... Only a would do that.... So by saying you have done that... you are telling all of the forum you are a big ...
I hope you realize that if you get caught doing that ( I am not going to turn you in because I respect this forum.) You are going to be in a world of hurt....
And quite frankly.... you are not teaching them to fear you....... Much the opposite...
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 25, 2024 7:35:13 GMT -5
So are grizzly bear attacks and polar bear attacks. But they do happen. And you’d be a fool to not be on your guard in their country. Attacks seldom go well for the victim. More fatal black bear attacks happen than all other bear species attacks. Of course there are more people in black bear country than in the others. JB can play Timothy Treadwell all he wants to. I’d rather use common sense and avoid the chance for a confrontation.
I was waiting for someone to bring up Timothy Treadwell..... So Thank you... But I never dreamed it would be you...
Treadwell was a dumb ass...... He sought direct confrontation with grizzly bears..... And he made his camp right on a very clear bear trail.... And he insisted on staying
at his camp even though everyone with common sense tried to tell him to get out.... He insisted on staying after all the well fed bears had already gone to their dens for the winter.... And some new bears came into the area he was camping.... They were subdominant bears that were literally starving... They could not feed in the area of his camp because the dominant bears did not allow them to feed there.... But now the dominant bears went to den. and the bears that were starving and looking for any extra calories to hopefully survive the winter... These new bears were not used to him hanging around... Like the well fed bears were... And these new bears were looking for any calories they could find... Because their chances or surviving the winter were not all that good.... Treadwell and his girlfriend became some extra calories for bears in starvation mode...
I am not a dumbass.... And I avoid confrontation at all costs... I will quickly back off if I see a potential confrontation...... Grizzlies and Black bears are very different animals.. About the only similarity is that they are both bears.... Beyond that... They are about as similar as cats and dogs....
And I have made a few mistakes... But black bears do not want to fight a person.... Just like I avoid confrontation... So do black bears.
I only brought him up because of the way you describe yourself around bears. It’s reminiscent of his beliefs that they were harmless. Thats only true if you leave them alone. When you start pestering them, even with a camera, not all will be okay with it. You’ve just become their nuisance human and, just like people, some will tolerate it and others won’t. Your own accounts support that being the case. Popping jaws isn’t a gesture of appreciation. |
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Post by swampdog on Jun 25, 2024 8:09:53 GMT -5
I’m not a huge fan of bears or even bear pics. Most pics are of a big dark blob with a bear head on it. They’re free to be wild animals and do have their place. We encounter them on our hunts and just let them go their way. I get a bigger thrill out of a bobcat or fox really close, and still appreciate their wildness.
Keep this in mind. It will only take someone unwittingly getting between young cubs and the sow to provoke an attack. Yep they may be cute to some, but they’re still a wild animal that deserves that respect. Being wild they can be unpredictable.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 25, 2024 8:14:36 GMT -5
The only encounter of questionable safety I’ve had with a bear was a mother and cubs that walked in to my coyote set one night. The sow circled around downwind of me and when she hit my scent she turned to predator mode and started slipping up on me. When I stood up and yelled to run her off she continued to close the distance. I cannot recall how I put her off, but she finally causally took her cubs to a feeder in the woodline and started destroying the feeder. She cared not for my presence or attempted deterrence.
Most other bears I’ve encountered were afraid of me.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 25, 2024 8:16:33 GMT -5
I probably posted this video on the old forum. Here’s one whose nose I beat:
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Post by gogittum on Jun 25, 2024 10:51:12 GMT -5
I ran the 55 mile length of Chilko Lake, B.C. in my 16 ft CC skiff in 2008 during the Salmon run and saw quite a few Bears on that trip. One female Black with 3 cubs, several male Grizzlies and one huge female with big 2 yearling cubs. ![]() Damned thing still won't allow photos. Tried to insert a pic of a really big male Grizzly, taken from my boat from about 100 ft away. When I moved to start the kicker motor, JIC the main motor quit at a bad time, he realized what I was and did a very fast 180 and disappeared into the woods at a run. That was encouraging, but I mis-doubt I'd depend on that reaction at any other time. Those things are huge. A human wouldn't have a chance if one attacked. |
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Post by swampdog on Jun 25, 2024 13:05:24 GMT -5
A grizzly is a different beast. Ursus horribilis for a reason.
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Post by tonyroma on Jun 25, 2024 13:07:43 GMT -5
Black bear cub found shot dead in Salt Springs, that didn’t take long.
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Post by TRTerror on Jun 25, 2024 15:41:41 GMT -5
YUP...Same as a 22 in their ass... Fear me a bit and we'll get along just fine. Think my house is your buffet , Your in a world of hurt. No... You completely do not get it....
I know you are too stupid to understand.... And you are probably not shooting bears in the ass.... You just think if you claim to do so it makes you some sort of redneck badass... It does not.... I thought you were more of a woodsman than that.... only a scared of the dark sissy would shoot a bear in the ass...
And the only way to shoot of a bear in the ass if it was running away from you.... Only a would do that.... So by saying you have done that... you are telling all of the forum you are a big ...
I hope you realize that if you get caught doing that ( I am not going to turn you in because I respect this forum.) You are going to be in a world of hurt....
And quite frankly.... you are not teaching them to fear you....... Much the opposite...
A.. Bears have Big asses...easy to hit B If you came in my yard and I shot you in the ass..you'd think twice before you came back. C..Maybe when FWC comes out to take me to task for shooting a bear with a 22 I'll let them know dropping off the Problem Bears from Town in my hood don't work real well. Maybe they should drop them off at your house. D...Maybe you think your Mr. Macho Man cause you take lot's of pictures of them.. I've been around them for years and I ain't scared of them but I will not put up with them raiding my house. A little Fear helps them understand I'm not to be messed with and my yard is an unfriendly place. E...22 bullets are cheap...Hope this helps Tarzan... |
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 25, 2024 17:09:25 GMT -5
No... You completely do not get it....
I know you are too stupid to understand.... And you are probably not shooting bears in the ass.... You just think if you claim to do so it makes you some sort of redneck badass... It does not.... I thought you were more of a woodsman than that.... only a scared of the dark sissy would shoot a bear in the ass...
And the only way to shoot of a bear in the ass if it was running away from you.... Only a would do that.... So by saying you have done that... you are telling all of the forum you are a big ...
I hope you realize that if you get caught doing that ( I am not going to turn you in because I respect this forum.) You are going to be in a world of hurt....
And quite frankly.... you are not teaching them to fear you....... Much the opposite...
A.. Bears have Big asses...easy to hit B If you came in my yard and I shot you in the ass..you'd think twice before you came back. C..Maybe when FWC comes out to take me to task for shooting a bear with a 22 I'll let them know dropping off the Problem Bears from Town in my hood don't work real well. Maybe they should drop them off at your house. D...Maybe you think your Mr. Macho Man cause you take lot's of pictures of them.. I've been around them for years and I ain't scared of them but I will not put up with them raiding my house. A little Fear helps them understand I'm not to be messed with and my yard is an unfriendly place. E...22 bullets are cheap...Hope this helps Tarzan... LMAO..... Thank Mr. Viking
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Post by 4ward on Jun 25, 2024 17:42:45 GMT -5
I probably posted this video on the old forum. Here’s one whose nose I beat: I guess I hastily misinterpreted the “nose beating “. I thought I was going to get to see you slap one silly. LOL I enjoyed it anyway, good stuff. |
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Post by johnnybandit on Jun 25, 2024 18:26:28 GMT -5
I was waiting for someone to bring up Timothy Treadwell..... So Thank you... But I never dreamed it would be you...
Treadwell was a dumb ass...... He sought direct confrontation with grizzly bears..... And he made his camp right on a very clear bear trail.... And he insisted on staying
at his camp even though everyone with common sense tried to tell him to get out.... He insisted on staying after all the well fed bears had already gone to their dens for the winter.... And some new bears came into the area he was camping.... They were subdominant bears that were literally starving... They could not feed in the area of his camp because the dominant bears did not allow them to feed there.... But now the dominant bears went to den. and the bears that were starving and looking for any extra calories to hopefully survive the winter... These new bears were not used to him hanging around... Like the well fed bears were... And these new bears were looking for any calories they could find... Because their chances or surviving the winter were not all that good.... Treadwell and his girlfriend became some extra calories for bears in starvation mode...
I am not a dumbass.... And I avoid confrontation at all costs... I will quickly back off if I see a potential confrontation...... Grizzlies and Black bears are very different animals.. About the only similarity is that they are both bears.... Beyond that... They are about as similar as cats and dogs....
And I have made a few mistakes... But black bears do not want to fight a person.... Just like I avoid confrontation... So do black bears.
I only brought him up because of the way you describe yourself around bears. It’s reminiscent of his beliefs that they were harmless. Thats only true if you leave them alone. When you start pestering them, even with a camera, not all will be okay with it. You’ve just become their nuisance human and, just like people, some will tolerate it and others won’t. Your own accounts support that being the case. Popping jaws isn’t a gesture of appreciation.
As I and others have said..... Grizzlies and Black Bears are very different animals...
I have been on the ground a few times with Grizzlies in my younger years... But I do not have much hands on experience with them..... I hope that changes as I near retirement.... I plan to spend some time in Alaska and especially the Kodiak Islands... Who knows.... Maybe I will get eaten up there...... But I can think of much worse ways to go.....
And of course teeth popping is not a friendly gesture.... but it is a warning..... But The "HUFF" sounds come first.....
And think as you choose.... But I feel strongly that with my interactions with black bears are not harassing them.... Other opinions may be different.... And that is okay with me...... (unless I am hazing a bear for someone... Which I have done...It is fun)
I follow very specific rules with bears..... And I do not violate them.... And My number one rule is that I avoid National Park bears at all costs..... I do go see suburban bears Near Wekiva sometimes... But they are so damn funny and I get free beer and a place to sleep... And I am usually there And more often than not I am there to haze a bear... Most of My really close photos.... The bear knew I was there.... And moved closer to me.... Sometimes out of curiosity..... But more often because they do not give a shit that I am there.... They know where I am and could care less....
And I HAVE made mistakes and ended up real close to close to bears... I have a set of rules for that..... Generally it is not an issue....
In hundreds of bears in assorted states.... I can count the really dicey moments on one hand... And I never felt like I was going to actually be attacked...
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