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Post by dragonbait on Jun 24, 2024 8:18:14 GMT -5
It’s comical that people would believe anything that he says, I guess that’s why he “loves the poorly educated “
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 24, 2024 8:44:08 GMT -5
That's the problem in a nutshell. Speaking of nuts, ... ... ... oh, why bother? Let me cut right to it. The law, at this stage, says Trump is guilty. It doesn’t matter what Trump thinks or says about it for the purpose of his criminal liability at this point. Regardless, Trump is still allowed to assert his innocence. The judge isn’t allowed to sentence him more harshly because Trump still asserts his innocence. Whatever the judge would be inclined to sentence him to, he isn’t allowed to make it more harsh because Trump won’t admit his guilt. That’s how it works on paper. A judge may be annoyed in his or her mind when a Defendant doesn’t admit guilt. And it may in fact cause a judge to sentence more harshly in realty. But if that’s the case, the judge cannot verbalize it on the record as a factor in the sentence. Its easier when a Defendant chooses not to say anything. A judge can look at other factors as indicating a lack of remorse and cite to those without danger of the record appearing as if the judge is punishing the Defendant for maintaining innocence.
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 24, 2024 9:26:52 GMT -5
There's a significant difference between "asserting innocence" and claiming "corruption" over and over.
Cries of "bias" are close to the edge, but blaming "corruption" by the Court won't be tolerated.
Donald Trump's clown show is about to end on a sour note.
He will richly ( of course ) deserve his punishment.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 24, 2024 17:30:48 GMT -5
It’s comical that people would believe anything that he says, I guess that’s why he “loves the poorly educated “ If you believe the words of ANY politician, you’re poorly educated. At least in politics. Words don’t matter. Results are what matters.
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 24, 2024 19:25:06 GMT -5
Results? Like the court's results?
If you disbelieve anything a politician says simply because they are a politician, you're likely poorly educated and probably of quite low intelligence as that's quite a stupid thing to say.
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Post by meateater on Jun 25, 2024 11:44:50 GMT -5
i just hope everyone has learned a huge lesson with this trial, NEVER pay off a woman or a man your secretly banging to hide it from your wife or voters with a check. i think trump missed this chapter in his art of the deal book. cash,cash , cash. dumb move on trumps part.
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Post by dragonbait on Jun 25, 2024 11:50:59 GMT -5
If Jack Teixeira can get 16 years in prison for stealing & showing off classified docs on Discord - Trump can get 16 years in prison for stealing & showing off classified docs at Mar-a-Lago. If/when convicted
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 25, 2024 12:33:14 GMT -5
I suspect that reality is beginning to set in.
Have any of you seen the recent Trump speech in Philadelphia?
He went off the rails blathering about water and his shampoo routine.
It was so bizarre that Fox news cut away from it, and made a lame excuse.
Trumps "stream of consciousness" rants have become increasingly unhinged.
His inability to stay on topic, and make sense, isn't limited just to "campaigning".
His recent meetings with members of congress, and business leaders, have left people stunned.
Trump is just as disjointed, unfocused, and off-kilter, in private as he is in public.
His act is getting stale ... ( and lower attendance certainly supports that notion ).
It's been reliably reported that not a single Fortune 500 CEO has endorsed him.
He lacks a clear of understanding of the economy, and how business really works.
Increasing tariffs, and starting a trade war, are anathema to the titans of industry.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 25, 2024 15:18:05 GMT -5
Did he write a beautiful letter from the Fulton County Jail?
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Post by meateater on Jun 25, 2024 15:37:57 GMT -5
Did he write a beautiful letter from the Fulton County Jail? now that was a good one lol lol
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 25, 2024 20:05:20 GMT -5
Results? Like the court's results? If you disbelieve anything a politician says simply because they are a politician, you're likely poorly educated and probably of quite low intelligence as that's quite a stupid thing to say. You’re pretty dense sometimes. We’ll, actually, most of the time, now that I think about it. 🙄
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Post by Tarponator on Jun 25, 2024 20:58:34 GMT -5
Results? Like the court's results? If you disbelieve anything a politician says simply because they are a politician, you're likely poorly educated and probably of quite low intelligence as that's quite a stupid thing to say. You’re pretty dense sometimes. We’ll, actually, most of the time, now that I think about it. 🙄 I think you shouldn't think so much....and it's "well".
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 25, 2024 21:08:22 GMT -5
Autocorrect isn’t automatically correct, it seems. 🤣
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Post by whitebacon on Jun 26, 2024 3:21:33 GMT -5
. I'm going with both. Trump will never see handcuffs, or a prison cell. The dumocrats better rig the election again. God help them if they screw it up. How many Republican Judges were corrupt in 2020? Every single one of them that looked at the supposed "evidence" tossed every complaint out of court. If the 2020 election was really stolen, who did it and how? FOX corporation could have saved hundreds of millions if they had an answer to that. They had no answer because it didn't happen! Election denial is the lowest form of political groveling, ( and/or a psychiatric disorder ). They changed the source code on Dominion voting machines, for maybe a day or two, to both change votes, and to not record some votes, all in big cities, in toss-up states, in favor on Biden. A virtually un-provable crime, without confessions, or months, and months of forensically investigating each and every voting machine/computer, and the changes to the source code. Trump didn't have the luxury of time to perform the examination of the machines. I've come to the conclusion, that you are actually so stupid, as to not be able to at least recognize the ease in which elections can be manipulated in very recent modern times. It only takes three or four Democrat states, with big cities, to swing an election. Daley in Chicago, did it routinely, long before computers. You show your severe lack of intelligence, in this discussion, every time you comment.
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Post by cadman on Jun 26, 2024 7:41:45 GMT -5
How many Republican Judges were corrupt in 2020? Every single one of them that looked at the supposed "evidence" tossed every complaint out of court. If the 2020 election was really stolen, who did it and how? FOX corporation could have saved hundreds of millions if they had an answer to that. They had no answer because it didn't happen! Election denial is the lowest form of political groveling, ( and/or a psychiatric disorder ). They changed the source code on Dominion voting machines, for maybe a day or two, to both change votes, and to not record some votes, all in big cities, in toss-up states, in favor on Biden. A virtually un-provable crime, without confessions, or months, and months of forensically investigating each and every voting machine/computer, and the changes to the source code. Trump didn't have the luxury of time to perform the examination of the machines. I've come to the conclusion, that you are actually so stupid, as to not be able to at least recognize the ease in which elections can be manipulated in very recent modern times. It only takes three or four Democrat states, with big cities, to swing an election. Daley in Chicago, did it routinely, long before computers. You show your severe lack of intelligence, in this discussion, every time you comment. Bacon, if you really believe they changed the source code on the machine, the only dumb one is you. That is a conspiracy bullsit lie. Any change to the code would be noticeable and also caught when they did the hand recounts in many of those major cities. The machines are inspected at the start of election day and at the end of election day by observers from both parties, the hand recounts are in the presence of observers from both parties. the rest of the bullshit is just that, bullshit. Any changes to the programming would be instantly noticed. The only thing democrats did better in 2020 was get out the mail in votes. Trump ran on the idea, mail in votes could not be trusted and told Republicans not to use mail in voting and only vote in person. Democrats endorsed and encouraged mail in voting. With Covid, mail in voting was popular and more people than ever voted by mail. that gave a distinct advantage tot he democrats. Many Republicans who were scared of Covid and did not trust mail in voting, simply did not vote. That was one main difference in the 2020 election. Trump's handling of Covid also hurt him and made independents look to another choice. i do not think mail in voting will be as strong this year as in 2020, but Trump and Republicans have tried to move toward encouraging people to use it. That will help them come November. Trump made two mistakes in 2020, handled Covid wrong and told Republicans not to use mail in ballots. It cost him the election.
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