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Post by bullfrog on Jun 16, 2024 16:10:38 GMT -5
I have never seen this sign in Miami. I sure see a lot of Trump flags flying in Hialeah from the very people that lived under and fled the dictator on the left. I guess those that lived under Fidel's dictadura disagree with you. This. First and early-gen Cubans hate them some Democrats with a burning anger.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 16, 2024 16:11:40 GMT -5
I have never seen this sign in Miami. I sure see a lot of Trump flags flying in Hialeah from the very people that lived under and fled the dictator on the left. I guess those that lived under Fidel's dictadura disagree with you. This. First and early-gen Cubans hate them some Democrats with a burning anger. Of course. More than one thing can be true at once.
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Post by conchydong on Jun 16, 2024 16:12:18 GMT -5
I know plenty more that recognize it too. They just see things differently. Maybe they see political prisoners as a threat because they lived through that reality. You are out of touch with your culture and Miami in general. Cubans and Venezuelans are overwhelming voting for the red team. Unlike you, they lived under communism and socialism. They can point out a real dictator better than you. All I have to go by is what I was told from people that lived it and saw Castro, in person, with their very own eyes. Fact is the vast majority of Cubans we're pro Castro until he went commie out of necessity and fucked them over. That's when they saw the true Castro and knew for sure what he really was. Just like America can see in Trump today. Care to hear more Cuban history? Castro took power with a army. You were born here in the USA. Many of my Cuban friends endured Castro’s regime many more years than you’re family did. Just sayin’.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 16, 2024 16:14:37 GMT -5
Castro until he went commie out of necessity I will somewhat agree with this. Ho Chi Minh was similar. Both tried to court the U.S. and we rebuffed them, so they instead ran to the Soviets out of spite. Its neither here nor there now. Sometimes its in our interests to manipulate dictators into our orbits. BUT… trying to do just that is one of the major criticisms of Trump by both parties. A Castro is a Putin is a Ho Chi Minh is a Kim Jon-un. One of our great weaknesses of our system is how our foreign policy can switch 180° every 4-8 years. Dictators are simply the kings by another name of our era. Most are brutal. Some can be reasoned with out of self-interest. Most value stability. One that makes a pact with us under one president cannot trust that it will remain in place under another.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 16, 2024 16:14:55 GMT -5
Trump is no Reagan or Bush, and those that lived it can recognize a dictator when they see it. Though they still vote Republican while still hating the Dems.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 16, 2024 16:20:04 GMT -5
All I have to go by is what I was told from people that lived it and saw Castro, in person, with their very own eyes. Fact is the vast majority of Cubans we're pro Castro until he went commie out of necessity and fucked them over. That's when they saw the true Castro and knew for sure what he really was. Just like America can see in Trump today. Care to hear more Cuban history? Castro took power with a army. You were born here in the USA. Many of my Cuban friends endured Castro’s regime many more years than you’re family did. Just sayin’. No doubt my family was fortunate in that they were able to get out, albeit with nothing. What's your point? Anyone who's being honest, and really looks, can see that wanna be dictator in Trump's cult of personality.
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Post by bullfrog on Jun 16, 2024 16:20:10 GMT -5
Trump is no Reagan or Bush, and those that lived it can recognize a dictator when they see it. Though they still vote Republican while still hating the Dems. If Trump was a dictator, he would still be president and not under massive lawfare. He wouldn’t have had staff that constantly leaked or a press that ran full journalistic operations against him.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 16, 2024 16:21:38 GMT -5
Trump is no Reagan or Bush, and those that lived it can recognize a dictator when they see it. Though they still vote Republican while still hating the Dems. If Trump was a dictator, he would still be president and not under massive lawfare. He wouldn’t have had staff that constantly leaked or a press that ran full journalistic operations against him. I meant to say wanna be, big difference, with plenty of evidence. It's not like he didn't really try.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 16, 2024 16:47:30 GMT -5
I know plenty more that recognize it too. They just see things differently. Maybe they see political prisoners as a threat because they lived through that reality. You are out of touch with your culture and Miami in general. Cubans and Venezuelans are overwhelming voting for the red team. Unlike you, they lived under communism and socialism. They can point out a real dictator better than you. All I have to go by is what I was told from people that lived it and saw Castro, in person, with their very own eyes. Fact is the vast majority of Cubans we're pro Castro until he went commie out of necessity and fucked them over. That's when they saw the true Castro and knew for sure what he really was. Just like America can see in Trump today. Care to hear more Cuban history? I won’t question what you’ve heard but will say that the opposite is what I have heard from others who were there when Fidel took over power. They didn’t like communism one bit and they don’t like its close cousin socialism in the least either. Cuban Americans recognize which party is pushing socialism today and they tend to vote accordingly.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 16, 2024 17:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by nikonoclast on Jun 16, 2024 18:37:18 GMT -5
The Cuban revolution was, like all of them, a complicated and ugly affair.
Remember, many of the Cuban exiles in Miami were doing just fine under the dictatorship. So were the King Ranch, and other American companies who refused buyouts, and received zero.
The casino action was run by the famous philanthropist & humanitarian, Meyer Lansky.
For decades, those hard-core pale faces plotted to return, and carve up the pie all over again.
Unfortunately for Cuba, Fidel believed his own publicity, and followed the money ( from Russia ).
Then again, it's damn hard to keep an economy afloat when American markets are cut-off.
US plutocrats know instinctively that they can't let a socialist government succeed in this hemisphere.
The great unwashed might start to get ideas, dangerous ideas ... .
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 16, 2024 18:58:53 GMT -5
That’s about as intellectually honest as someone saying that Obama was a homicidal maniac just because some half-wit democrat tried to break up a congressional soft ball game with a gun. Neither are true.
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Post by walkerdog on Jun 16, 2024 19:02:04 GMT -5
The Cuban revolution was, like all of them, a complicated and ugly affair. Remember, many of the Cuban exiles in Miami were doing just fine under the dictatorship. So were the King Ranch, and other American companies who refused buyouts, and received zero. The casino action was run by the famous philanthropist & humanitarian, Meyer Lansky. For decades, those hard-core pale faces plotted to return, and carve up the pie all over again. Unfortunately for Cuba, Fidel believed his own publicity, and followed the money ( from Russia ). Then again, it's damn hard to keep an economy afloat when American markets are cut-off. US plutocrats know instinctively that they can't let a socialist government succeed in this hemisphere. The great unwashed might start to get ideas, dangerous ideas ... . Or, it could just be that people enjoy their liberty and don’t want to trade it for a failed system of government that doesn’t offer it.
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Post by richm on Jun 16, 2024 19:27:47 GMT -5
I know some cubans. They vote red.
I dont think trump is trying to be a dictator. He knows he gets 4 yrs at a pop.
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Post by biminitwisted on Jun 16, 2024 23:15:34 GMT -5
This is not normal.
Latest review of US House legislation shows GOP proposals to:
- Require US Treasury to print $500 bills with Trump's portrait
-Rename Dulles Airport in Virginia after Trump
-Rename US coastal economic zones after Trump
-Award Trump a Congressional Gold Medal
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