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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 7:16:56 GMT -5
You need to use 1/18/21 when prices were $2.61, Trump was President until January 20th and also the most current data which is $4.11 per gallon. All grades average for Chicago. That is not doubt. If you just pick random dates, you can claim anything, like gas increased $1 a gallon under Trump.
Gas prices fluctuate all the time. I can make all kinds of claims picking random dates, if that is your desire.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 16, 2024 8:12:39 GMT -5
I don’t need to use any 2021 date. I said 2020. As soon as the oil companies realized Trump was not going to be our president they started sliding up the prices.
The total inflation disaster is the fault of the Lyin Biden administration’s policies. They own it !
Everyone in our country had it better while Trump was in office. Period!
I also stated “a few months ago”. Not today. But it is still very high.
You really need to quit making excuses and attempts to cover up the Biden Crime Family’s administrations policies and problems.
You bias is shining through AGAIN!
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 12:21:52 GMT -5
I wonder why the oil companies started raising prices right after the 2016 election then? I guess they figured Trump was going to screw up and they better make the money while they could. It went from $2.18 a gallon to $2.85 a gallon before Covid hit driving it back down. Knowing Trump was voted out has zero to do with it. The prices were at rock bottom due to a demand crash with Covid. You have no idea what you are talking about. As demand increased, prices increased. Then Russia invaded Ukraine creating more supply issues.
Not sure how pointing out the facts and reality at the time is defending anyone.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 16, 2024 14:17:28 GMT -5
It's called Trump Bulimia.
They absorb so much shit that they have to vomit. Usually in the form of unsubstantiated, second hand comments, name calling and desperate attempts to malign whoever doesn't agree with them.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 16, 2024 17:38:46 GMT -5
Sir. I posted facts. The articles are there to back it up.
Gas was in the $2.25 range in 11/20
Gas is around $4.45 now
Nearly double.
Biden and the anti-fossil fuel leftists own it. Period.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Jun 16, 2024 17:40:58 GMT -5
The only shit being absorbed is the lies and propaganda being spewed by the Democrat Party in attempts to cover up their mishandling of the country.
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 18:59:11 GMT -5
Sir. I posted facts. The articles are there to back it up. Gas was in the $2.25 range in 11/20 Gas is around $4.45 now Nearly double. Biden and the anti-fossil fuel leftists own it. Period. You said the $2.25 was 12/20 which is regular according to the EIA, but you used the BLS website. Then you used the all grades average from the EIA and picked the highest priced week in May to try and prove your point In December 2020 Regular was $2.28, close to the the price you used from the BLS website, but the current price for regular in you area as of last week was $3.95 per gallon as shown here on the EIA monthly chart. www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_YORD_DPG&f=WYou did not post facts, you picked data using two different formula for the gas price and tried to pretend they were facts. Using facts the price has increased quite a bit around 73%, but it has not doubled if we use the same source and same product and not mix data to try and make a false claim as you did. Also, the FACTS are we were in the middle of Covid in 2020 and demand had crashed and nobody was buying fuel. The supply of finished motor fuel was only 8.1 million gallons per day in December of 2020. Currently the supply is 9 million a day, that is almost a million more gallon a day of product needed due to the increased demand after Covid. As I stated earlier, you do not understand supply and demand and have no clue what you are talking about, you are just taking random data and trying to make untrue claims. the U.S. is supplying record amounts of domestic oil currently. www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=wgfupus2&f=WI bet you even think the day Trump goes into office gas will drop back down to $1.99 a gallon, don't you?
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Post by cadman on Jun 16, 2024 19:06:57 GMT -5
The only shit being absorbed is the lies and propaganda being spewed by the Democrat Party in attempts to cover up their mishandling of the country. Biden has mishandled a lot of things, but oil and gas prices are a commodity product and world events impact the price of fuel way more than who the President is. Russia at war with Ukraine, unrest in the middle east. Covid crashing demand in 2020. whether or no Saudi Arabia is pissed at Russia and the OPEC+ countries violating their quota supply agreements. How much oil OPEC supplies the market, China's economy and fuel demand. it is not as simple as who the President is.
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 17, 2024 6:12:15 GMT -5
IF needs to check his local gas tax structure (city and state).
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Post by ferris1248 on Jun 17, 2024 6:17:45 GMT -5
"The amount of tax charged per gallon of fuel is one of the principle reasons Chicago’s prices consistently among the most expensive in the country. There are several layers of taxes, the most common are the “motor fuel taxes” these are based on a set cost per gallon. " "In addition to set per gallon taxes, On top of that, additional excise taxes are charged by Illinois, the county and of course Chicago. The amount of these taxes vary from state to state, with Illinois coming in at number five. Illinois is one of the few states that additionally tacks on sales tax charged as a percentage of the total cost of your purchase. As a result as gas prices rise, so does the tax." www.urbaninsuranceagency.com/why-is-gas-so-expensive-in-chicago/#:~:text=The%20amount%20of%20tax%20charged,a%20set%20cost%20per%20gallon.
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Post by johngalt on Jun 17, 2024 9:36:52 GMT -5
The biggest reason there is such a disparity in fuel prices is the fact the government mandates something like 40 blends of gasoline. Typical government bureaucrats meddling in things they have no idea about. Making themselves look important.
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Post by meateater on Jun 17, 2024 11:23:55 GMT -5
gas is way cheaper under biden, same as food , same a building materials,,same as cars and trucks, interest rates also less under biden. you complainers are just crazy trumpers.
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 17, 2024 13:14:18 GMT -5
I wonder why the oil companies started raising prices right after the 2016 election then? I guess they figured Trump was going to screw up and they better make the money while they could. It went from $2.18 a gallon to $2.85 a gallon before Covid hit driving it back down. Knowing Trump was voted out has zero to do with it. The prices were at rock bottom due to a demand crash with Covid. You have no idea what you are talking about. As demand increased, prices increased. Then Russia invaded Ukraine creating more supply issues. Not sure how pointing out the facts and reality at the time is defending anyone. So wrong on many levels!
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Post by osprey11 on Jun 17, 2024 13:17:09 GMT -5
The only shit being absorbed is the lies and propaganda being spewed by the Democrat Party in attempts to cover up their mishandling of the country. Biden has mishandled a lot of things, but oil and gas prices are a commodity product and world events impact the price of fuel way more than who the President is. Russia at war with Ukraine, unrest in the middle east. Covid crashing demand in 2020. whether or no Saudi Arabia is pissed at Russia and the OPEC+ countries violating their quota supply agreements. How much oil OPEC supplies the market, China's economy and fuel demand. it is not as simple as who the President is. Wrong wrong wrong. And lets not forget Iran and Russia were almost bankrupt due to low oil prices. Biden has benefited our enemies through his crap energy policy. Anything Grandholm says is caca. But you suck it up. How does that shit taste?
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Post by nuevowavo on Jun 17, 2024 14:17:29 GMT -5
Could someone explain to me how Biden has caused increased oil prices? Because we are drilling more than ever, exporting more than ever. Is it possible that oil is a global commodity, and since we only produce 20% of the world's oil, we do not have control of the price of oil? And that we produce "light" crude, which is mostly exported, while we import "heavy" crude, which is what our refineries are set up to use? And that the heavy crude we import is actually cheaper than the light crude that we export?
Or is it just easier to say FJB?
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