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Post by whitebacon on Sept 6, 2024 2:12:55 GMT -5
That's not what happened, and you know it. I watched the bullshit video. I'm guessing the dozens of cops standing behind her with riot gear and automatic weapons didn't feel so threatened. Don't cherry pick some bullshit NBC video of an idiot lone cop who himself made a bad shot, and should be in jail. She was there with the mob busting the windows and trying to crawl through. End of story. Had she been on the otherside you would be cheering the cop on. There was not cops in riot hesr standing behind her that's such horse sht The screenshot below is at the :45 (second) mark of the NBC video you directed me to. Ashli has just immediately been shot - like two seconds before - and is lying on the floor. I count at least 3 swat guys in full riot gear, with automatic weapons in the frame. Please actually watch the video, and stop arguing about it. You can apologize to me and admit you were wrong. I will accept that.
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Post by cadman on Sept 6, 2024 10:23:01 GMT -5
Those officers ran up the stairs after the shots were fired. If you look at a screenshot from multiple videos just before the shooting, there are two unarmed security personnel to the side of where the violent protestors are breaking into the secure area. Behind thelady who was shot is about 20 other protestors wanting to follow her into the secure area. Those swat guys were not right behind her while they were breaking in.
The officer was cleared as he had given warnings not to enter the secure area. You can even hear a protestor say, "he has a gun" as they had not expected to encounter armed resistance.
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 6, 2024 10:54:37 GMT -5
Those officers ran up the stairs after the shots were fired. If you look at a screenshot from multiple videos just before the shooting, there are two unarmed security personnel to the side of where the violent protestors are breaking into the secure area. Behind thelady who was shot is about 20 other protestors wanting to follow her into the secure area. Those swat guys were not right behind her while they were breaking in. The officer was cleared as he had given warnings not to enter the secure area. You can even hear a protestor say, "he has a gun" as they had not expected to encounter armed resistance. Ok, I will play along since you are determined to argue with me. I viewed and cited the NBC video that was presented to me as evidence from another forum member with whom I had a disagreement. So to address your position, how far away were the swat guys? 5 feet? 10 feet? 15? How much ground can an armed swat guy cover in two seconds? If the swat team was just feet from Ashli, and obviously with no barrier between them and her, why was it necessary for another cop on the other side of the barrier to kill her? I want an answer to each question from you, please. And not another you hate Trump speech. And please cite facts, and not any of your theories about what a savage killer Ashli Babbit was, prior to her murder, so savage that she had to be murdered in front of dozens of people while unarmed. Maybe she was going to kill everyone with her nail file? Thank you.
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Post by cadman on Sept 6, 2024 13:08:47 GMT -5
Those officers ran up the stairs after the shots were fired. If you look at a screenshot from multiple videos just before the shooting, there are two unarmed security personnel to the side of where the violent protestors are breaking into the secure area. Behind thelady who was shot is about 20 other protestors wanting to follow her into the secure area. Those swat guys were not right behind her while they were breaking in. The officer was cleared as he had given warnings not to enter the secure area. You can even hear a protestor say, "he has a gun" as they had not expected to encounter armed resistance. Ok, I will play along since you are determined to argue with me. I viewed and cited the NBC video that was presented to me as evidence from another forum member with whom I had a disagreement. So to address your position, how far away were the swat guys? 5 feet? 10 feet? 15? How much ground can an armed swat guy cover in two seconds? If the swat team was just feet from Ashli, and obviously with no barrier between them and her, why was it necessary for another cop on the other side of the barrier to kill her? I want an answer to each question from you, please. And not another you hate Trump speech. And please cite facts, and not any of your theories about what a savage killer Ashli Babbit was, prior to her murder, so savage that she had to be murdered in front of dozens of people while unarmed. Maybe she was going to kill everyone with her nail file? Thank you. They were in the building headed that way, as I understood the events. They had been called to the area. There was a crowd of protestors between them and the glass doors where the young lady got shot. You can see the mass of protestors in the NBC video you cite at around the 7 second mark, the video pans toward the crowd and you can see there are no armed officers and the hall is filled with protestors. When the shot is fired, the protestors retreat and the armed officers show up. The officer fired at her as she climbed through the broken window over the barricade to let the other protestors in. That was the secure area where members of congress were and the officer was not letting anyone enter that area as he was assigned to protect those members of congress. If she had gotten through then many other protestors would have followed and been able to overpower the lone officer. He warned them several times not to enter the glass doors. If that mob had managed to get by him, there is no telling what they may have done to some members of congress with the anger and mob mentality seen in the video. There was no way for the officer to know where any backup was or when it would arrive. He made the only decision he could to protect the members of congress of harm. I am not trying to argue, but present facts you may not be aware of. you seem to be making a decision based on a 2 second snippet of a 1 minute video. There is much more video out there and eyewitness testimony to the events took place. When it was all reviewed the officer was found justified for firing his weapon.
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 6, 2024 13:24:48 GMT -5
Ok, I will play along since you are determined to argue with me. I viewed and cited the NBC video that was presented to me as evidence from another forum member with whom I had a disagreement. So to address your position, how far away were the swat guys? 5 feet? 10 feet? 15? How much ground can an armed swat guy cover in two seconds? If the swat team was just feet from Ashli, and obviously with no barrier between them and her, why was it necessary for another cop on the other side of the barrier to kill her? I want an answer to each question from you, please. And not another you hate Trump speech. And please cite facts, and not any of your theories about what a savage killer Ashli Babbit was, prior to her murder, so savage that she had to be murdered in front of dozens of people while unarmed. Maybe she was going to kill everyone with her nail file? Thank you. They were in the building headed that way, as I understood the events. They had been called to the area. There was a crowd of protestors between them and the glass doors where the young lady got shot. You can see the mass of protestors in the NBC video you cite at around the 7 second mark, the video pans toward the crowd and you can see there are no armed officers and the hall is filled with protestors. When the shot is fired, the protestors retreat and the armed officers show up. The officer fired at her as she climbed through the broken window over the barricade to let the other protestors in. That was the secure area where members of congress were and the officer was not letting anyone enter that area as he was assigned to protect those members of congress. If she had gotten through then many other protestors would have followed and been able to overpower the lone officer. He warned them several times not to enter the glass doors. If that mob had managed to get by him, there is no telling what they may have done to some members of congress with the anger and mob mentality seen in the video. There was no way for the officer to know where any backup was or when it would arrive. He made the only decision he could to protect the members of congress of harm. I am not trying to argue, but present facts you may not be aware of. you seem to be making a decision based on a 2 second snippet of a 1 minute video. There is much more video out there and eyewitness testimony to the events took place. When it was all reviewed the officer was found justified for firing his weapon. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and say you can't answer the questions, because you don't the answers. Making up speculative answers not based in fact or reality makes you look even worse. I'm going to repeat what I said before, if there is an armed swat team clearly close to her, within steps or feet, there is no reason for Barney Fife to let them (protestors) finally break the window so that he can shoot an unarmed young lady dead. I'm not arguing anymore about it. Now if you're still in the mood to defend pond scum like bad capital cops, tell us about the nasty partisan Jamaican Obama judge who has sentenced at least 30 Jan 6 protesters to sentences far exceeding federal guidelines. I will wait for your spin on this one.......
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Post by dragonbait on Sept 6, 2024 13:26:56 GMT -5
How come none of the bad ass patriots attempted to climb through that window afterwards, if the cops on the ground floor would have done the same thing to the first person to climb through each window the trash would have stayed outside, it would have saved millions in damages and court costs
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 6, 2024 13:34:29 GMT -5
How come none of the bad ass patriots attempted to climb through that window afterwards, if the cops on the ground floor would have done the same thing to the first person to climb through each window the trash would have stayed outside, it would have saved millions in damages and court costs How come you don't ever make any sense? Like even a little bit?
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Post by resinhead on Sept 6, 2024 13:51:14 GMT -5
Stupidity
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Post by dragonbait on Sept 6, 2024 13:52:17 GMT -5
Let me make it easy for your pickled noodle, had the Capital police shot the first few terrorists as they entered through a window after breaking in there would have been a lot less money spent on repairs and court case and housing the terrorists
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Post by resinhead on Sept 6, 2024 13:53:23 GMT -5
See?
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 6, 2024 14:05:53 GMT -5
If they're so innocent why didn't Trump pardon them all when he the power to do it?
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Post by resinhead on Sept 6, 2024 14:19:04 GMT -5
Hindsight’s a bitch
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Post by biminitwisted on Sept 6, 2024 15:41:46 GMT -5
Now they get to languish in prison because their Messiah didn't have the courage to stand by them like they were doing for him. It's what always happens to everyone that hitches their wagon to that fat fuck who shits on those loyal to him..
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Post by cadman on Sept 6, 2024 16:15:48 GMT -5
They were in the building headed that way, as I understood the events. They had been called to the area. There was a crowd of protestors between them and the glass doors where the young lady got shot. You can see the mass of protestors in the NBC video you cite at around the 7 second mark, the video pans toward the crowd and you can see there are no armed officers and the hall is filled with protestors. When the shot is fired, the protestors retreat and the armed officers show up. The officer fired at her as she climbed through the broken window over the barricade to let the other protestors in. That was the secure area where members of congress were and the officer was not letting anyone enter that area as he was assigned to protect those members of congress. If she had gotten through then many other protestors would have followed and been able to overpower the lone officer. He warned them several times not to enter the glass doors. If that mob had managed to get by him, there is no telling what they may have done to some members of congress with the anger and mob mentality seen in the video. There was no way for the officer to know where any backup was or when it would arrive. He made the only decision he could to protect the members of congress of harm. I am not trying to argue, but present facts you may not be aware of. you seem to be making a decision based on a 2 second snippet of a 1 minute video. There is much more video out there and eyewitness testimony to the events took place. When it was all reviewed the officer was found justified for firing his weapon. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and say you can't answer the questions, because you don't the answers. Making up speculative answers not based in fact or reality makes you look even worse. I'm going to repeat what I said before, if there is an armed swat team clearly close to her, within steps or feet, there is no reason for Barney Fife to let them (protestors) finally break the window so that he can shoot an unarmed young lady dead. I'm not arguing anymore about it. Now if you're still in the mood to defend pond scum like bad capital cops, tell us about the nasty partisan Jamaican Obama judge who has sentenced at least 30 Jan 6 protesters to sentences far exceeding federal guidelines. I will wait for your spin on this one....... You're speculating on where the armed officers were and even speculating they were swat. The officer inside warned the protesters multiple times to stop. As proven by video and eye witness reports, the armed officers were not within steps of the lady. They were some place down the stairs with protesters between them and the door she broke through. They did not arrive on scene until after the shot was fired. Read the court hearing where the officer was cleared and look at other video. My answer to you was not speculation.
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Post by whitebacon on Sept 6, 2024 16:47:22 GMT -5
You're speculating on where the armed officers were and even speculating they were swat. The officer inside warned the protesters multiple times to stop. As proven by video and eye witness reports, the armed officers were not within steps of the lady. They were some place down the stairs with protesters between them and the door she broke through. They did not arrive on scene until after the shot was fired. Read the court hearing where the officer was cleared and look at other video. My answer to you was not speculation. Its pure speculation. Do you feel like if you get the last word you're Automatically right? You say stairs, I say steps. It's the same damn thing. Walking 10 feet is "arriving on scene?" Jesus man, you should quit while you're behind.
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