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Post by cyclist on Apr 17, 2024 20:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by walkerdog on Apr 17, 2024 20:51:52 GMT -5
Lots of “recycled” materials actually ends up in the landfill, due to the cost of reusing them. The economics of recycling are often not as good as advertised.
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Post by jmarkb on Apr 17, 2024 21:39:04 GMT -5
Lots of “recycled” materials actually ends up in the landfill, due to the cost of reusing them. The economics of recycling are often not as good as advertised. This. When we do military jobs they make us use at least 50% recycled pvc pipe. It cost the tax payers about twice as much as the regular sch 40 pipe.
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Post by gandy on Apr 18, 2024 6:41:52 GMT -5
If only there was a way to force the people to live the way a few people know is best.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 18, 2024 8:36:52 GMT -5
The world economy can't continue on this path, just like housing starts is considered a positive economic indicator that really isn't.
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Post by swampdog on Apr 18, 2024 14:20:54 GMT -5
Timely post. We’ve been in a use it, and when it breaks or looks a little dated, we throw it away and buy a new one. I just told my wife that with the higher prices on goods we may be getting to the point that instead of throwing a toaster a way, we may be repairing it.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 18, 2024 14:26:53 GMT -5
Timely post. We’ve been in a use it, and when it breaks or looks a little dated, we throw it away and buy a new one. I just told my wife that with the higher prices on goods we may be getting to the point that instead of throwing a toaster a way, we may be repairing it. Nice.
I tried to get rid of a mid 90s drier the other day, I mentioned it at a local parts store....all of the staff said DON'T DITCH IT! Fix it, way better than the modern appliances that seem to need an expensive computer board every couple of years. Very simple machine, good energy efficiency and easy to fix (mostly just fuses).
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Post by mackeralsnatcher on Apr 18, 2024 14:37:32 GMT -5
Just went thru that with an old kenmore upright freezer.(Circa 1995) Had a "certified repairman" come out and quoted me $450 Had my sons fiend come out and switched out a part for "$140 Sucker is working like new.
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Post by tampaspicer on Apr 18, 2024 15:20:16 GMT -5
Microwave stopped working and the wife thought we needed another one. $5 fuse later and I fixed it. Saved over $300
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Post by Mango Man on Apr 18, 2024 15:32:16 GMT -5
Getting the parts is normally the issue.
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Post by bswiv on Apr 18, 2024 17:01:14 GMT -5
In a sad sort of way price is often a proxy for energy used in producing.....not always....but often. If it costs more to use a recycled material than a new material, assuming no distorting government actions altering the cost of the new, then generally the new has a lower carbon footprint.
That said.......we carry all our recyclables in....even buckets of bolts and parts once they build up enough......and 200 pounds of scrap steel is worth all of $11 right now.....still....hate to see it in the landfill.
These things are complicated............
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Post by mapper on Apr 18, 2024 17:36:07 GMT -5
The 1980's air conditioner is working fine.. No circuit boards just relays and capacitors.
Simple stuff keep it running.
I've changed out the blower motor and the pump for the water supply, Have a spare pump on hand setup and ready to go. But I'm glad that I know geothermal jimmy as well. Folks who know that stuff are getting harder to find.
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Post by TRTerror on Apr 18, 2024 19:03:58 GMT -5
Just replaced my Well Blatter Tank.. Old one is gonna make a Mighty fine Smoker..
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Post by pinman on Apr 18, 2024 19:21:04 GMT -5
Cheaper goods started when manufacturing migrated to Japan and Taiwan. It really took off when the manufacturing went to China and the quality of goods has gone down progressively. Now its mostly throwaway Chinese junk that is often not cost efficient to repair. Having things worth repairing means they will need to be built better and so will cost more. Hard to convince someone to buy a $1000 built in the USA microwave that can be repaired when a China made one costs $200.
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Post by richm on Apr 18, 2024 19:21:16 GMT -5
Back in about 1976/77 my folks went in w grandfolks and bought an upright freezer. (I remember my grandfather burying lake ice in wood chips in the yard for the ice box.). The new freezer reduced the amount of canning during fall harvest.
Anyway, the freezer was still working last year but the frame rotted off it. 45-ish yr old freezer! In a rusted heap in sister’s basement. No recycling that sucker but it worked and never broke down.
A good place for older style washing machines and dryers is repair shops. 100-200 and you can get a repaired unit. Wish i did that but bought what i thought was the last noncomputerized one and wife tells me it is a low water version.., siiigh. Either wash on deep water cycle or wash twice so stuff don't stink.
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