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Post by cyclist on May 29, 2024 8:52:07 GMT -5
Any long distance travel with EVs certainly adds a pucker factor that isn't there with ICE vehicles. Every year its gets better though.
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Post by gandy on May 29, 2024 9:05:44 GMT -5
Any long distance travel with EVs certainly adds a pucker factor that isn't there with ICE vehicles. Every year its gets better though. Have you been following the EV cannonball run times. They are kicking some ass.
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Post by garycoleco on May 29, 2024 19:15:44 GMT -5
Any long distance travel with EVs certainly adds a pucker factor that isn't there with ICE vehicles. Every year its gets better though. Have you been following the EV cannonball run times. They are kicking some ass. Everyone tows 10,000 lbs until they run across a scale and realize they're not
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Post by Tarponator on May 29, 2024 21:33:57 GMT -5
I tow 8800 lbs, have scale receipts, and drive a diesel. The GF's next car will probably be a hybrid. Are EVs dead yet?
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Post by gandy on May 30, 2024 6:55:08 GMT -5
Have you been following the EV cannonball run times. They are kicking some ass. Everyone tows 10,000 lbs until they run across a scale and realize they're not How many 30' + trailer boats have been sold by sales man telling the buyers their SUV can tote the new to them 4500lb boat
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Post by johngalt on May 30, 2024 7:47:42 GMT -5
I tow 8800 lbs, have scale receipts, and drive a diesel. The GF's next car will probably be a hybrid. Are EVs dead yet?
Is that net weight or gross weight? As far as towing, you can tow a 10 ton trailer and load with a riding lawnmower. Controlling it is a different matter. 😳
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Post by Crkr 23 on May 30, 2024 9:39:20 GMT -5
Everyone tows 10,000 lbs until they run across a scale and realize they're not How many 30' + trailer boats have been sold by sales man telling the buyers their SUV can tote the new to them 4500lb boat This is very true, my old 23ft boat supposedly weighed 2500lbs. I would bet that loaded with fuel, bait, ice and trailer, ready to fish it weighed over 6000lbs. Throw in 2 lard asses plus myself, it made quite a load.
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Post by Tarponator on May 30, 2024 14:38:37 GMT -5
I tow 8800 lbs, have scale receipts, and drive a diesel. The GF's next car will probably be a hybrid. Are EVs dead yet?
Is that net weight or gross weight? As far as towing, you can tow a 10 ton trailer and load with a riding lawnmower. Controlling it is a different matter. 😳 The gross weigh with trailer (RV) attached is almost 17k. The truck weighs 8k.
It controls that load just fine.
Now towing it with the Tahoe, that was a different beast entirely. Which is precisely why I tow the RV with a 250 now.
The right tool for the job, you know.
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Post by Captj on May 31, 2024 6:37:01 GMT -5
Is that net weight or gross weight? As far as towing, you can tow a 10 ton trailer and load with a riding lawnmower. Controlling it is a different matter. 😳 The gross weigh with trailer (RV) attached is almost 17k. The truck weighs 8k.
It controls that load just fine.
Now towing it with the Tahoe, that was a different beast entirely. Which is precisely why I tow the RV with a 250 now.
The right tool for the job, you know.
That's why I'll never sell my '06 Dodge 2500HD. Don't care what it looks like - it gets the job done. And yes we own a Tesla as well.
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Post by meateater on May 31, 2024 10:14:24 GMT -5
How many 30' + trailer boats have been sold by sales man telling the buyers their SUV can tote the new to them 4500lb boat This is very true, my old 23ft boat supposedly weighed 2500lbs. I would bet that loaded with fuel, bait, ice and trailer, ready to fish it weighed over 6000lbs. Throw in 2 lard asses plus myself, it made quite a load. you forgot the beer.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 5, 2024 8:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by cyclist on Jun 5, 2024 9:49:20 GMT -5
Sales going nowhere but up. Amazing how many double down on falsehoods and lies and just plain ole stupidity, even when they would benefit from the technology. evadoption.com/ev-sales/ev-sales-forecasts/www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-28/the-slowdown-in-us-electric-vehicle-sales-looks-more-like-a-blipSales Looks More Like a Blip EV sales are still booming for most automakers — even if Tesla is in a rut. How China’s BYD Overtook Tesla In this Article GENERAL MOTORS CO 44.98 –0.63% TESLA INC 173.83 –0.54% FORD MOTOR CO 11.85 –1.54% EV GROWTH FUND -- Have a confidential tip for our reporters? Get in Touch Before it’s here, it’s on the Bloomberg Terminal LEARN MORE By Tom Randall May 28, 2024 at 7:30 AM EDT After an underwhelming start to the year for US electric-vehicle sales, it might seem easy to conclude that the boom times are over. Sales were flat in the first quarter, Ford dramatically scaled back expansion plans and Tesla laid off 10% of its global workforce. But these dismal indicators only tell part of the story. For every sign of an EV slowdown, another suggests an adolescent industry on the verge of its next growth spurt. In fact, for most automakers, even the first quarter was a blockbuster. Six of the 10 biggest EV makers in the US saw sales grow at a scorching pace compared to a year ago — up anywhere from 56% at Hyundai-Kia to 86% at Ford. A sampling of April sales similarly came in hot.
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Post by luapnor on Jun 5, 2024 10:00:43 GMT -5
LOL.. forecasts are generally worthless. Most battery plants are scaling back construction. When you are the leader by all metrics and your sales crash, it cant be ignored. Not sure that the other automakers picked up the loss. Their "increase" is minimal compared to the Tesla drop.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 5, 2024 10:30:17 GMT -5
LOL.. forecasts are generally worthless. Most battery plants are scaling back construction. When you are the leader by all metrics and your sales crash, it cant be ignored. Not sure that the other automakers picked up the loss. Their "increase" is minimal compared to the Tesla drop.
Actually forecasts are not generally worthless. And the sales are not as you say. You really don't know what you are talking about, as usual.
www.edf.org/media/analysis-finds-us-electric-vehicle-battery-manufacturing-track-meet-demandAnalysis Finds U.S. Electric Vehicle Battery Manufacturing on Track to Meet Demand January 3, 2024 (Washington, D.C. – January 3, 2024) An analysis by Environmental Defense Fund finds that enough U.S. battery production capacity has already been announced to supply all the electric vehicles – both cars and trucks – expected to be sold in 2030. EDF’s analysis determined that more than 1,000 gigawatt hours per year of U.S. EV battery production capacity has already been announced to come online by 2028. That’s the equivalent of what is needed to power 10 million electric cars – and is more than enough to supply all the electric vehicles that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency projects could be sold in 2030. The EV market is already rapidly growing – EPA recently announced that electric vehicles reached 12% of all vehicles produced for sale in the U.S. in 2023, an increase of 70% over the year before.
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Post by cyclist on Jun 5, 2024 10:51:36 GMT -5
GM sees 300% growth for 2024
The two companies with the worst start to the year were General Motors and Tesla — both victims, in part, of their own product cycles. This year GM discontinued its most popular EV, the Chevy Bolt, before its replacements were ready, while Tesla Model 3 production was interrupted for a long-planned facelift to the car’s design. Excluding those two models, US EV sales in the first quarter grew a respectable 23% over a year ago, matching pace with global EV sales for the same period.
For the rest of 2024, GM appears to be on the brink of becoming the biggest driver of EV growth in the US. The Detroit automaker has committed to electrifying some of its biggest brands, which are finally reaching production after years of delays. That includes a $35,000 Equinox SUV and its sibling Blazer, as well as Silverado and GMC Sierra electric pickups with up to 450 miles of range.
These vehicles all rely on the new Ultium line of batteries from GM’s joint venture with LG Chem. Problems with those batteries, and with GM’s new EV software, tripped the brakes on the automaker’s EV plans last year. Had Ultium arrived on time, in the numbers GM had predicted, the mood around the US EV market might have been exuberant going into 2024.
GM Chief Executive Officer Mary Barra says Ultium problems are in the rearview, and the company expects to produce 200,000 to 300,000 Ultium-based EVs this year, a potential 50-fold increase from the 5,800 Cadillac Lyrics sold in Q1. “I think it was overhyped and now it’s probably underhyped,” Barra recently said of the US outlook for EVs. “The truth is somewhere in the middle.”
And for all the talk of an EV slowdown, many longer-term forecasts haven’t budged. In April, the International Energy Agency estimated that US sales of fully electric vehicles will soar to 2.5 million in 2025, from 1.1 million last year. EV Slowdown May Be Just a Blip for the US
Analysts see growth resuming for fully electric cars
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