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Post by 4ward on Apr 9, 2024 19:56:47 GMT -5
I’m not familiar enough with timber practices. They are cutting the south end of Grove Park and it seems a bit weird to me how they are doing it. Very selective, cutting new roads thru younger pines, leaving many scattered pines throughout larger tracts of older trees (like alot). It doesn’t look like a typical cut, prep, replant. Any ideas?
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Post by bullfrog on Apr 9, 2024 20:11:22 GMT -5
I’m not familiar enough with timber practices. They are cutting the south end of Grove Park and it seems a bit weird to me how they are doing it. Very selective, cutting new roads thru younger pines, leaving many scattered pines throughout larger tracts of older trees (like alot). It doesn’t look like a typical cut, prep, replant. Any ideas? Different from thinning them? |
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Post by 4ward on Apr 9, 2024 20:29:03 GMT -5
I’m not familiar enough with timber practices. They are cutting the south end of Grove Park and it seems a bit weird to me how they are doing it. Very selective, cutting new roads thru younger pines, leaving many scattered pines throughout larger tracts of older trees (like alot). It doesn’t look like a typical cut, prep, replant. Any ideas? Different from thinning them? Yes. couple hundred acres clear cut like usual, then just as much adjacent where they left a tree every 60- 80’(?), then plowed a new road/ truck loading area in the middle of younger 5-10 year old trees. I don’t know why they would leave scattered pines like that. |
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 10, 2024 4:57:05 GMT -5
If it's on the Orange Lake block, the thinned pine area maybe being set up for a gopher mitigation area like the turtle pen area south of River Styx Rd.
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Post by drgibby on Apr 10, 2024 5:59:58 GMT -5
Hope it isn't a real estate cut!
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Post by cadman on Apr 10, 2024 6:05:04 GMT -5
Hope it isn't a real estate cut! That was my thought, housing development. I pulled up a google map to see the area and saw this comment under the reviews. It is 2 years old so may be unrelated. It's a really cool place , but unfortunately they are cutting the hardwood trees out . About 100 acres worth , to be used for fuel wood at Gainesville GRU facility . A waste of natural habit because of electricity . |
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 10, 2024 6:50:13 GMT -5
If it's where I think it is, it's in a conservation easement, I think, so no development.
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Post by 4ward on Apr 10, 2024 6:55:20 GMT -5
It is the gopher mitigation area. I stopped and snapped a couple pics this morning. Could not figure why they would be so selective. Just being curious   |
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 10, 2024 7:19:26 GMT -5
If it's the mitigation area I don't think they are allowed to clear cut it. It has certain parameters that have to be maintained for the preservation of the gophers. The trees that are left are probably what is considered "seed trees", they will reseed the area with out disturbing the area to much.
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 10, 2024 7:33:03 GMT -5
4ward, tried to send you a PM, don't know if it went through.
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Post by whitebacon on Apr 10, 2024 7:41:19 GMT -5
If it's the mitigation area I don't think they are allowed to clear cut it. It has certain parameters that have to be maintained for the preservation of the gophers. The trees that are left are probably what is considered "seed trees", they will reseed the area with out disturbing the area to much. I'm not following this thread. But.......If someone is talking about a legally permitted and approved mitigation area in Florida, feel free to ask me about the rules. No one can touch it afterward. Gophers, and any other natural wildlife must be maintained. Have done this a long time before I left. The rules haven't changed. |
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Post by 4ward on Apr 10, 2024 8:25:48 GMT -5
If it's the mitigation area I don't think they are allowed to clear cut it. It has certain parameters that have to be maintained for the preservation of the gophers. The trees that are left are probably what is considered "seed trees", they will reseed the area with out disturbing the area to much. Makes sense. This area is what they apparently refer to as a gopher relocation site. I guess they are still allowed to log it? Seems a little strange that they would be allowed to work it at all. When they first put the cloth barrier along the highway years ago, it was kind of a joke. The turtles walked right under it. I could not tell you how many I have walked off the road thru there. |
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Post by Crkr 23 on Apr 10, 2024 8:35:49 GMT -5
If you would have looked closely at the "escapees" you would have seen that they were numbered. They mark some of the shells outer scales with notches or drilled holes, kind of like how they marked hogs on the old hog claims. Each outer scales has a specific value.
So far as logging it, they probably had to locate all the burrows and keep the heavy equipment so far away. They also have to keep the new growth thin enough, generally by burning, to allow enough sunlight for wire grass and forbes to grow. From what I understand, they have to maintain it like this into perpetuity.
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Post by cyclist on Apr 10, 2024 10:25:24 GMT -5
If it's the mitigation area I don't think they are allowed to clear cut it. It has certain parameters that have to be maintained for the preservation of the gophers. The trees that are left are probably what is considered "seed trees", they will reseed the area with out disturbing the area to much. Makes sense. This area is what they apparently refer to as a gopher relocation site. I guess they are still allowed to log it? Seems a little strange that they would be allowed to work it at all. When they first put the cloth barrier along the highway years ago, it was kind of a joke. The turtles walked right under it. I could not tell you how many I have walked off the road thru there. I think Crkr23 is spot on. So dense stands with lots of shrubs and not much herbaceous, grassy groundcover is not good for gophers. Opening the stand up for sunlight to hit the ground encourages groundcovers and grasses (fine fuels) which help carry fire which helps reduce sun robbing woody shrubs and oaks and helps keep it as an open treed savanna like system.
Basics on Florida ecosystems and prescribed fire.
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Post by Glenn on Apr 10, 2024 10:28:22 GMT -5
Hope it isn't a real estate cut! Exactly what it sounds like to me. I would not doubt it if they are selling the property not owned by the water management. |
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