Those pesky Russians are at it again

🤣😜😂

Go sit around the campfire with your buddies Putin, Xi, Ali Khamenei and Kim Jong Un and sing kumbaya. 

There is no perfect world. If we do not defend ourselves, much as they do, we are toast.

But maybe you prefer that?

"As MAGA members of Congress including Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Thomas Massie (R-WV), and Matt Gaetz (R-FL) oppose sending additional aid to Ukraine as it fights against a Russian invasion, GOP Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), Chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said Russian propaganda has “infected a good chunk of my party’s base.”

"Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH), also a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, supported McCaul’s claim on CNN’s ‘State of the Union’ this weekend. Turner said: “We see directly coming from Russia attempts to mask communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages – some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor.”

"Turner added: “There are members of the House today who still incorrectly say this conflict between Russia and Ukraine is over NATO, which of course it is not…Vladimir Putin made it very clear publicly and to his own population… that all of Ukraine territory is Russia’s.”

"Turner said the “infection” of Russian propaganda is “an authoritarian versus democracy battle,” and noted that Chinese President Xi and Putin “have identified it as such.” Turner added: “We know authoritarian regimes never stop when they start an aggression.”

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I’m all in for supporting Ukraine and Israel. I just wished we gave them the F 16s and Patriots sooner instead of playing politics and seeing how support went before making decisions. We gave Russia time enough to regroup and change strategies. I’d rather put my tax dollars there than giving them to kids that got student loans for worthless degree and don’t want to pay them off. Many of us went through the school of hard knocks and you have to learn from mistakes and not be rewarded for them.

Please give it a rest.
Did you question Vietnam? If so you were a communist stooge.
See how that works?
I hate to break the news to you but, we can give Ukraine all the weapons and money we want but it won’t work.
They are running out of manpower.
The average age of a frontline Ukrainian troop is 40.
As others just said, why didn’t NATO and the US give them the weapons they needed at the start or even before?
Study up what happened in 2014.
Now maybe you can see why the real goal is to insert NATO and US troops into that war.

If NATO is trying to directly join the war, why don’t they do just it?

The greater likelihood is that the war is exactly what it seems. NATO had muddled their way through it. They didn’t think Ukraine would last long in the beginning so their early planning was centered around fostering a long-term insurgency behind Russian lines. Then Russia failed to adapt for the first entire year and it seemed like Ukraine might pull out a total victory, so plans went in that direction. Then Russia got lots of material help from the Axis of Evil countries and finally started to learn from their mistakes. And now we’re not sure which direction to go.

The most prudent outcome at this point IMO would be to ceed Dombas to Russia, have the war officially “end,” then immediately occupy Ukraine with NATO troops so that Russia can expand no further into Ukraine for the years to come.

I don’t think that will happen though, because Russia has never only wanted Dombas. Now that Russia sees that NATO actually has no interest in a wider war, they’ll try to wait NATO out, fight Ukraine to exhaustion, then take the whole country. At the cost of nearly all of Russia’s fighting manpower. But it won’t matter, because Russia (Putin) actually knows and understands that NATO is defensive only and will always let Russia make the first move. NATO will never invade Russia as a first move. It will always be Russia on the offense. So if he burns 90% of his army in Ukraine, he can then let Russia rest for 10 years, rebuild its manpower, then move on to the next object of conquest, probably left for Putin’s successor.