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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 20, 2024 22:41:07 GMT -5
She'll make enough on the book deal or movie rights to cover. And if you're an expert on spotting liars how in the hell can you support Trump? Well, first I don’t support Trump. Second, I specifically indicated I’m an expert in the courtroom. Its my gift. My trial skills and way with a jury are unparalleled. But its specific to that role as a trial attorney and not beyond it. You can lie to me all day long in my personal life and fool me easily. But I’ll eat you alive if you’re my opponent in the courtroom with Justice on the line. This may be a bit of a digression, but this case is still developing and I don't feel like starting a new thread. Maybe Ferris and a couple of others can chime in if they would like. You clearly were a Trump supporter at one time because you voted for him and then at some point you saw the light and changed your mind. Personally I think your not terribly unique in this, but many others refuse to see the truth. My question is what specifically was your aha moment, and point of no return?
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Post by tonyroma on Mar 20, 2024 22:47:59 GMT -5
Ah, the old "I can spot a liar a mile away" argument. Except, I’m quite literally and in actuality an expert at it. I’m no armchair quarterback. I’m the multi-time Super Bowl MVP and winning head coach rolled into one when it comes to the courtroom. I know both a mortally wounded attorney and a lying witness when I see one. She’s both. Her professional days are numbered. And humble 😉
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Post by cadman on Mar 21, 2024 6:26:27 GMT -5
Ah, the old "I can spot a liar a mile away" argument. Except, I’m quite literally and in actuality an expert at it. I’m no armchair quarterback. I’m the multi-time Super Bowl MVP and winning head coach rolled into one when it comes to the courtroom. I know both a mortally wounded attorney and a lying witness when I see one. She’s both. Her professional days are numbered. I believe she was untruthful on the stand about when the relationship started. But how do you prove it? Unless a witness can testify that they saw then check into a hotel room together or saw them in bed together, how do you prove it was a lie. Maybe a witness who saw them kissing? Is testimony from person A that person B told them he knew they were having sex proof? Is I saw them together at dinner proof? You have referred those with direct knowledge before stepping forward. I do not see how or who could have direct knowledge of exactly when they were having a romantic relationship. Or does simply being friends disqualify her? I think it will be very difficult, if not impossible to PROVE the exact moment the romantic relationship began. When did it go from acquaintances to friends to romantic involvement? Lastly, how does this affect the evidence or the trial against Trump? Will the judge allow the defense to use this in the jury trial? Why would he since it is immaterial to the issue or the evidence. Whether she had a romantic relationship with another attorney has no bearing on what Trump did or did not do. She did not pursue Trump to make money off the trial. The judge decided that. I think she faces some disciplinary action and may not get re-elected, but she is hardly finished as an attorney. I doubt she is disbarred over this. She may be finished in the public sector, but she will survive in the private sector. I think there is a chance she gets re-elected and survives this. How do you interfere with the will of the people who re-elect her after this?
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 21, 2024 6:32:54 GMT -5
Except, I’m quite literally and in actuality an expert at it. I’m no armchair quarterback. I’m the multi-time Super Bowl MVP and winning head coach rolled into one when it comes to the courtroom. I know both a mortally wounded attorney and a lying witness when I see one. She’s both. Her professional days are numbered. And humble 😉 Truth is truth. John Rambo would be self-delusional if he thought himself to be a poor commando who couldn’t complete his missions with excellence. He probably wouldn’t be Pentagon material. But none could stand against him when he’s in his element. The character knew how to fight a guerrilla war. Maybe not much else. I’m painfully shy and can stutter with a think country accent. I also have chronic Lyme disease which drastically changed how my mind works. I’m not unintelligent under its influence, but I would bet it knocked my IQ down from being well above average in my memory and problem-solving skills to just “normal.” So it pleased (maybe amused) God to make me an extremely effective trial attorney with strong public speaking skills. That’s usually how He likes to work. He likes to take weak things and make them His instruments of strength. He turns things on their heads. I wouldn’t have the power or the ability but for Him granting it. Which also means He can take it away at any time. I know it comes from Him. But that doesn’t mean that I should have false humility about it and pretend I don’t have it. That’s actually how I reasonably know God has called me to this profession. I don’t assert He speaks to me directly. Instead, its the evidence of His providence and His abnormal blessing upon me that tells me He’s equipped me to do this job for this time. I believe the reason I have the Lyme disease is because its one method by which God makes me aware that my power as a successful trial attorney comes from Him and not myself.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 21, 2024 7:32:11 GMT -5
Well, first I don’t support Trump. Second, I specifically indicated I’m an expert in the courtroom. Its my gift. My trial skills and way with a jury are unparalleled. But its specific to that role as a trial attorney and not beyond it. You can lie to me all day long in my personal life and fool me easily. But I’ll eat you alive if you’re my opponent in the courtroom with Justice on the line. This may be a bit of a digression, but this case is still developing and I don't feel like starting a new thread. Maybe Ferris and a couple of others can chime in if they would like. You clearly were a Trump supporter at one time because you voted for him and then at some point you saw the light and changed your mind. Personally I think your not terribly unique in this, but many others refuse to see the truth. My question is what specifically was your aha moment, and point of no return? It was a speech where he lied about building the wall when it was clear he did no such thing. That’s when I knew he was as cynical as the Swamp itself. Now that was prior to 2020 and I still voted for him. But that was really a vote against Biden and nothing more. As I’ve said before, I’d vote for Trump just to stop a radical like Newsome. But 4 years of Biden was “meh.” If my protest vote causes 4 more years of the same level of “meh” then oh well. I also no longer believe the country can be fixed by political change. Political ideology is America’s false religion. No legislation can fix the human heart.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 21, 2024 7:57:45 GMT -5
Except, I’m quite literally and in actuality an expert at it. I’m no armchair quarterback. I’m the multi-time Super Bowl MVP and winning head coach rolled into one when it comes to the courtroom. I know both a mortally wounded attorney and a lying witness when I see one. She’s both. Her professional days are numbered. I believe she was untruthful on the stand about when the relationship started. But how do you prove it? Unless a witness can testify that they saw then check into a hotel room together or saw them in bed together, how do you prove it was a lie. Maybe a witness who saw them kissing? Is testimony from person A that person B told them he knew they were having sex proof? Is I saw them together at dinner proof? You have referred those with direct knowledge before stepping forward. I do not see how or who could have direct knowledge of exactly when they were having a romantic relationship. Or does simply being friends disqualify her? I think it will be very difficult, if not impossible to PROVE the exact moment the romantic relationship began. When did it go from acquaintances to friends to romantic involvement? Lastly, how does this affect the evidence or the trial against Trump? Will the judge allow the defense to use this in the jury trial? Why would he since it is immaterial to the issue or the evidence. Whether she had a romantic relationship with another attorney has no bearing on what Trump did or did not do. She did not pursue Trump to make money off the trial. The judge decided that. I think she faces some disciplinary action and may not get re-elected, but she is hardly finished as an attorney. I doubt she is disbarred over this. She may be finished in the public sector, but she will survive in the private sector. I think there is a chance she gets re-elected and survives this. How do you interfere with the will of the people who re-elect her after this? It will be proven through testimony from people who had eyes on them together. It sounds like their relationship wasn’t much of a secret in the legal community. It just was never an issue until they took the stand and denied to the Court the earlier date for when it started. The lie is a bigger deal than the underlying fact. By design or accident, she’s caught in a classic perjury trap. It doesn’t directly effect the facts of Trump’s case. But another prosecutor may not see the strength or merits of the case the same. I am betting that a prosecutor who doesn’t have a political motivation to “get” Trump will find it stupid and possibly even unjust. That’s the gamble Trump’s attorneys are taking to have her removed. That, and to delay the trial past elections. The longest delay possible would come from assigning a new prosecutorial office.
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Post by cadman on Mar 21, 2024 8:37:00 GMT -5
I believe she was untruthful on the stand about when the relationship started. But how do you prove it? Unless a witness can testify that they saw then check into a hotel room together or saw them in bed together, how do you prove it was a lie. Maybe a witness who saw them kissing? Is testimony from person A that person B told them he knew they were having sex proof? Is I saw them together at dinner proof? You have referred those with direct knowledge before stepping forward. I do not see how or who could have direct knowledge of exactly when they were having a romantic relationship. Or does simply being friends disqualify her? I think it will be very difficult, if not impossible to PROVE the exact moment the romantic relationship began. When did it go from acquaintances to friends to romantic involvement? Lastly, how does this affect the evidence or the trial against Trump? Will the judge allow the defense to use this in the jury trial? Why would he since it is immaterial to the issue or the evidence. Whether she had a romantic relationship with another attorney has no bearing on what Trump did or did not do. She did not pursue Trump to make money off the trial. The judge decided that. I think she faces some disciplinary action and may not get re-elected, but she is hardly finished as an attorney. I doubt she is disbarred over this. She may be finished in the public sector, but she will survive in the private sector. I think there is a chance she gets re-elected and survives this. How do you interfere with the will of the people who re-elect her after this? It will be proven through testimony from people who had eyes on them together. It sounds like their relationship wasn’t much of a secret in the legal community. It just was never an issue until they took the stand and denied to the Court the earlier date for when it started. The lie is a bigger deal than the underlying fact. By design or accident, she’s caught in a classic perjury trap. It doesn’t directly effect the facts of Trump’s case. But another prosecutor may not see the strength or merits of the case the same. I am betting that a prosecutor who doesn’t have a political motivation to “get” Trump will find it stupid and possibly even unjust. That’s the gamble Trump’s attorneys are taking to have her removed. That, and to delay the trial past elections. The longest delay possible would come from assigning a new prosecutorial office. I think it was a secret, but subject to much gossiping. If they find someone who saw them kissing or acting romantic in public, then you will be right, but my guess is, much like the DA from another county, it will be someone told them the two were romantically involved and no one actually saw anything to establish exactly when it went from acquaintances to lovers. That is the issue, when did they first have sex.
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Post by meateater on Mar 21, 2024 9:48:03 GMT -5
theres video of her blowing him filmed by bt on whitebacons boat going down the saint johns river 3 years ago how much proof do you need.
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 21, 2024 11:03:49 GMT -5
If anyone can not get the feeling that she is a complete liar you are hurting or are blinded by your hatred for Trump.
Further if you don’t see that this is a politically motivated case you are equally as blind and foolish.
This woman has destroyed her career and could possibly even be disbarred.
She lashed out when she was on the stand about “I’m not on trial here, they are!”
Actually she is on trial and will continue to be on trial.
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Post by throttle on Mar 24, 2024 3:07:41 GMT -5
fani pieceahdoo willis has made a mockery outa the georgia legal system. just embarrassing at this point . Well, at least Fani didn't plot to invalidate my vote. So there's that. Yeah as long as she's only plotting to invalidate my vote it's all good. Thanks for your commitment to democracy.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 24, 2024 13:09:03 GMT -5
Well, at least Fani didn't plot to invalidate my vote. So there's that. Yeah as long as she's only plotting to invalidate my vote it's all good. Thanks for your commitment to democracy. I'm a Georgia voter, so these defendants allegedly plotted to invalidate my vote. What greater commitment to democracy is there other than to ensure one's vote is correctly counted?
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Post by garycoleco on Mar 24, 2024 13:12:15 GMT -5
Yeah as long as she's only plotting to invalidate my vote it's all good. Thanks for your commitment to democracy. I'm a Georgia voter, so these defendants allegedly plotted to invalidate my vote. What greater commitment to democracy is there other than to ensure one's vote is correctly counted? Was every vote correctly counted?
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 24, 2024 13:15:23 GMT -5
I'm a Georgia voter, so these defendants allegedly plotted to invalidate my vote. What greater commitment to democracy is there other than to ensure one's vote is correctly counted? Was every vote correctly counted? As best possible of course it was. Considering they counted three times.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 24, 2024 13:59:37 GMT -5
Today she said “I don't feel like we've been slowed down at all. I do think that there are efforts to slow down this train, but the train is coming.”
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Post by throttle on Mar 24, 2024 16:06:17 GMT -5
Yeah as long as she's only plotting to invalidate my vote it's all good. Thanks for your commitment to democracy. I'm a Georgia voter, so these defendants allegedly plotted to invalidate my vote. What greater commitment to democracy is there other than to ensure one's vote is correctly counted? There is no greater commitment to democracy than election interference, for instance plotting to remove the opposition candidate from the ballot, or jail him, or bankrupt him. As a loyal partisan you'll say he has it coming because he committed crimes. Well that's exactly the mechanism of the interference- claiming he committed crimes. But those are claims, not facts. And it IS election interference. Hitler, Stalin, Castro, would all be proud of the democrats and their fervor to make America a one party state.
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