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Post by bullfrog on Mar 15, 2024 11:33:14 GMT -5
Well, yes, no, no, and I dunno. Its generally proper for a judge to seek a ruling that disturbs the case the least as possible. But like the Fox legal commentator says, the judge correctly held that the legal standard is appearance of impropriety, and that burden has been met. Willis looks crooked. So why not remove her? The judge may be setting himself up to be overturned on appeal. Its not consistent to say “Willis looks shady, and that’s the standard, but I won’t remove her.” A whole other level of “appearance of impropriety” has been establish by her behavior on the stand. She’s severely wounded by this ruling and issue. I’ve been right about everything so far, so mark my words on this. She’s likely going to be eaten alive for the perjury issues involved with the hearing on this case. And if she does come back seeking her “pound of flesh,” that’s all the more wrong on her part. Prosecutors aren’t allowed to get their “pound of flesh” on someone because something didn’t go their way. I have no idea whether there will be more guilty pleas. Am I missing that part? As I understand the ruling, though I have not read it, does it not come down to that in Georgia the standard is actual impropriety, and that burden has not been met? The opinion is divided into two parts. The first says that Trump didn’t prove an actual conflict, but Trump did prove an appearance of impropriety, that the appearance of impropriety is the standard (he quotes a lot of Georgia case law that shows prosecutors being removed for the mere appearance of impropriety). He then explains why it all looks shady. But then he explains where an actual conflict requires the complete removal of a prosecutorial office, Georgia case law is vague whether the appearance of impropriety required an entire office be removed or just individual prosecutors. He takes a conservative view, meaning he’s going to take the view that disturbs the case the least, and therefore he believes the appearance of impropriety can be handled by removing Wade himself. That’s where the opinion gets janky. He lays out why Willis herself looks dishonest. Well, her dishonesty doesn’t leave just because Wade leaves. How does her appearance of shadiness get resolved just because Wade may disappear? A lying prosecutor is a lying prosecutor. The judge is probably taking in public policy considerations (ie political) by not making Willis come off completely. Totally removing her would probably allow his decision to be spun as political even if he doesn’t intend for it to be at all. Its a hell of a thing to disgrace a DA under the national spotlight. And he’s already done that to a great degree, as we attorneys would perceive it. But he’s done it the bare minimum he had to. That’s consistent with a conservative judicial philosophy.
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Post by Tarponator on Mar 15, 2024 12:02:29 GMT -5
Bullfrog, Since your first post in this thread you seem convinced that Fani perjured herself. Would you please point out precisely where she did so as I don't see proof of that nor do I see the Judge asserting it to the best of my knowledge (I've not caught up on the hearing or read today's judgement yet)? Curiously yours and appreciative of your sharing your perspective....
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 15, 2024 12:05:18 GMT -5
Where's all that unyielding respect for the officers of the court in relation to the appearance of impropriety when it comes to Justices of the Supreme Court?
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Post by Tarponator on Mar 15, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -5
Two tiered justices, of course.
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Post by bullfrog on Mar 15, 2024 12:32:23 GMT -5
Bullfrog, Since your first post in this thread you seem convinced that Fani perjured herself. Would you please point out precisely where she did so as I don't see proof of that nor do I see the Judge asserting it to the best of my knowledge (I've not caught up on the hearing or read today's judgement yet)? Curiously yours and appreciative of your sharing your perspective.... That hers and Wade’s relationship didn’t begin until after she hired him.
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Post by biminitwisted on Mar 15, 2024 14:01:29 GMT -5
Appearance of impropriety?
Clarence Thomas took decades of bribes from a billionaire
Alito takes luxury trips funded by billionaires and religious orgs
Gorsuch sold his million-dollar property to a lawyer with cases before him
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Post by whitebacon on Mar 15, 2024 14:11:55 GMT -5
Appearance of impropriety? Clarence Thomas took decades of bribes from a billionaire Alito takes luxury trips funded by billionaires and religious orgs Gorsuch sold his million-dollar property to a lawyer with cases before him You don't take me seriously.
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Post by dragonbait on Mar 15, 2024 14:17:53 GMT -5
Someone is day drinking
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 15, 2024 14:22:05 GMT -5
If Fani doesn’t take herself off of the case I can see her being disbarred over her actions and behavior.
Best to just walk away for her.
Trumps barracuda attorneys are going to tear her apart over her actions if she continues.
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Post by dragonbait on Mar 15, 2024 14:32:27 GMT -5
Because his legal team has shown how effective they are 😂😂😂
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Post by nikonoclast on Mar 15, 2024 16:18:20 GMT -5
If Fani doesn’t take herself off of the case I can see her being disbarred over her actions and behavior. Best to just walk away for her. Trumps barracuda attorneys are going to tear her apart over her actions if she continues. What separates the "barracuda attorneys" from the "false albacore" attorneys"? Two things stand out: The client, and the clients willingness to pay. The client is Donald Trump, television performer, serial grifter, and former president. The client is well known for two things: unpaid legal bills, and bankrupting his casino. Manhattan is awash first class attorneys, and law firms, who specialize in business related cases. Many specialize in business cases that have a criminal component, that is, "white collar crime". However, in substantial swaths of the legal community, MAGA stands for "Making Lawyers Get Lawyers". Not a single first rate firm will take the risk of 1. not being paid, 2. suborning perjury, 3. bad publicity. ( It doesn't help matters that there's no almost no defense, and the client will never, ever, take a deal. ) The best attorneys that Trump could find either have resigned, or have represented him, then resigned. "The donor class" has overpaid a group of 3rd stringers ( or worse ) with near zero courtroom experience. A second year law student could convict Trump in Georgia. How many times would they have to play that phone call soliciting phony votes? Was it not Trumps voice? ... Guilty as charged. The RICO cases are much harder, but in isolation, Trump's toast. "Barracuda" attorneys don't file frivolous motion after frivolous motion, with zero "bite". They don't get slapped down by unanimous decisions from the DC Circuit either. They don't forget to request a jury trial, providing KY for their clients' $500 million dollar enema. Looking forward to 2025 ... Will president Biden be inspired by his senatorial predecessors? Could the guiding spirit of Gerald Ford be waiting in the wings? Will our abiding democracy support healing and forgiveness? Can we come together with a unity of purpose? I certainly hope so. Hang the son of a bitch.
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Post by Captj on Mar 15, 2024 16:38:00 GMT -5
To quote the top Republican candidate, "lock him up"
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Post by illinoisfisherman on Mar 15, 2024 16:48:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately Trump will be President in 2025. It is unfortunate because he is the only person running that can get our country back on track.
Fortunately he is much better than what we have right now.
Trump 45 & 47 -2025
Drill baby drill.
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Post by whitebacon on Mar 15, 2024 17:04:52 GMT -5
If Fani doesn’t take herself off of the case I can see her being disbarred over her actions and behavior. Best to just walk away for her. Trumps barracuda attorneys are going to tear her apart over her actions if she contin I will pretty much bang any female . I am particular about dark skinned girls. But I will bitch slap the taste out of a cellulite fat ass who thinks she's hot
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Post by cadman on Mar 15, 2024 17:06:24 GMT -5
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