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Post by meateater on Jun 28, 2023 8:32:05 GMT -5
whats your opinion first let me say i own 9 or 10 and use them on several wmas they are all cheap i dont set the date or time i set them up and week or 2 later i check and see whats in the area. most wmas i hunt i scout a minimum 3 or 4 times,, looking for deer sign,checking cams, if other hunters are in the same area , looking for the perfect tree to hang a stand. heres the problem i see in the near future i am seeing more and more cell cams in the woods so if you wanted to you could set up 3 or 4 on game trails sit in your truck in the ac waiting for real time photos to pop up now you know which trail he,s walking and direction and head on over, to me this takes away the fair chase aspect of hunting cell cams are gonna make all cams illegal i see it coming.
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Post by altuck on Jun 28, 2023 9:42:44 GMT -5
I understand in some areas dog hunters are putting cameras on scrapes. Instead of riding the roads looking for tracks, which may or may not be a buck. They are confirming a legal buck before putting the dogs out Course they are looking at their gps screen seeing where the dogs are while the buck runs past them.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jun 28, 2023 11:22:41 GMT -5
I still don't own any cameras but enjoy seeing the pics from my buddies when they catch a deer creeping.
Due to very limited free time, Google earth usually gets me to a starting point to put my boots on the ground. Quite honestly, if I had cams, I'm not sure I would deploy them on a public parcel but they certainly would help.
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Post by JS84 on Jun 28, 2023 15:21:23 GMT -5
To add some information, cell cameras do not provide real time pictures as they are taken. Mine do not and I'm not aware of any that do.
My cell cameras take pictures 24x7 but only upload the pictures to the vendor's servers, twice daily at intervals you set. Then you can log into the website or app to see the picture uploaded. What makes it more fun is my cameras are in an area right now where they barely get a signal and only connect about once every 3 days as is. A picture taken Monday at 9am might get to me by Friday night if I'm lucky. Now if I have them in an area with good signal; I'll potentially get pictures uploaded twice daily at 10am and 10pm. Still far off from real time
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Post by richm on Jun 28, 2023 18:16:29 GMT -5
Just blabbing - not targeting op.
People are so worried about what other people are doing and want to level the field so that they have some advantage.
They pitched a fit about e-bikes cause they were too cheap to buy one. So now it is assist only.
Some states have banned game cams because of the whiners.
Its like society, some folks want us all to start from the same starting line. Then we have socialists demanding that we all end on the same finish line at the same time no matter who runs the race best or who even tries.
I do understand where this stuff is coming from and it is the tv and youtube heros who would be lost without their electronic gadgets. They kill stuff on tv so everyone with xyz app must be slaying them, gotta ban it.
FL has some of the worst hunting available in the country and the shortest hunt times (3 or 5 days). I think we’re gonna make it without banning everything. The state slready set us up at a disadvantage but allows the opportunity.
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Post by pinman on Jun 28, 2023 20:25:24 GMT -5
At one time in history a piece of wood tube with a plastic reed in the middle was considered a "technological advancement" (in case you dont now what I am talking about its a duck call that has been around for 70 years or more). We are lucky to be living in an era of such technology. My FIL just had an artery cleared with little more than a pin prick in his leg. Embrace change or die trying to fight it....
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Post by joekat46 on Jun 29, 2023 3:12:48 GMT -5
Only hunt turkey - Yes we own several and will use them almost continuously on private land. They help keep track of the gobblers and also spot the area trespassers. Good to know the patterns of both. When we drew a very limited quota in 2022 I scouted the WMA at least a dozen times with two cameras running. Worked out. Maybe in a few years I'll have enough points to draw the area again. Grr! Attempt to post a picture or two. If they post upside down click them and if you are logged in they self correct and enlarge. Top picture is from my trail camera a few weeks before the quota hunt. Opening morning I set up with my back to the tree where the camera was located. The one I'm holding may be the one strutting in the camera. I like to think so anyway. I really worked for that one. It was over a mile back in. A lot for an old geezer. The walk back out with 17 additional pounds was a killer. It got hot. Oh well, One picture correct one upside down .
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Post by meateater on Jun 29, 2023 10:12:47 GMT -5
sorry guys i meant live streaming there are cams out there where you can get live streaming in seconds.
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Post by joekat46 on Jun 29, 2023 14:34:58 GMT -5
Yes I see your point, Almost like a video game. Drones are another coming concern.
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Post by james14 on Jun 29, 2023 22:24:26 GMT -5
Live stream cameras are not in use to any meaningful degree. Yes, all cell cams can send pics as soon as they're taken, but the feasibility of using this to any advantage is not common in most situations.
Let's say I'm sitting in my stand and get a pic of a buck on a scrape. In the time it takes for me to climb down and get to where he is he could be hundreds of yards away - and I would have only a slight idea of which direction he went. This might be different on a feeder or food plot, but that would be a private land scenario. Heck, if you can take that little bit of info (pic sent to your phone), and figure out where he is, and how to get to him, in range, and make a good shot, more power to you. I'm running a lot of cell cams and know my woods very well, and that would be a tough, tough task.
Now, turkeys on the other hand, they're a different story.
Ultimately, very few people have the skills to make use of instant photos on a cell cam to help them pull off a kill. Those people probably already have no problem filling their tags, so it's not making any real difference in overall harvest.
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Post by richm on Jun 30, 2023 7:02:01 GMT -5
sorry guys i meant live streaming there are cams out there where you can get live streaming in seconds. Live video! That's cool - I used to think I was gonna take a Harbor Freight drive way alarm and kill the noise part, just the red blink when something sets it off - set it up behind me so I'll know when to turn around to see what it is. Being deaf, this seems like a smart thing to me. How deaf - I can't hear the tweety birds, deer blowing at me, or deer rooting around in the oak leaves. Hunting is all visual and sitting there with my head spinning around will spook stuff for sure.
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jun 30, 2023 7:57:53 GMT -5
To add some information, cell cameras do not provide real time pictures as they are taken. Mine do not and I'm not aware of any that do. My cell cameras take pictures 24x7 but only upload the pictures to the vendor's servers, twice daily at intervals you set. Then you can log into the website or app to see the picture uploaded. What makes it more fun is my cameras are in an area right now where they barely get a signal and only connect about once every 3 days as is. A picture taken Monday at 9am might get to me by Friday night if I'm lucky. Now if I have them in an area with good signal; I'll potentially get pictures uploaded twice daily at 10am and 10pm. Still far off from real time My tactacams give pictures instantly.
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Post by fishingsouthflorida1 on Jun 30, 2023 8:44:39 GMT -5
Yes some cell cameras you can get pictures sent to you that very moment. Hell on private land my uncle sets his out and waits for a hog to show up at night and get woken up by the notification on his phone 😂. But he’s an older gentleman and ain’t as fit as he use to be. But that only works because he has service on his phone in the area. I don’t know about y’all but when I hunt public land I barely get a single bar of service if that so the whole sitting in your truck in the ac waiting for a pic to show up only works if your in an area that has enough cell service to send you a picture. So that shouldn’t be a worry.
I have a couple cell cams and the reason I do is because I work and go to school still so I have little to no time to go back and check my cams so having them sent to my phone is ideal. ALSO for those scent freaks it helps prevent you from frequenting an area and laying your scent all over to check the camera and the deer picking up on that and taking off cause they smell humans frequenting the area.
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Post by meateater on Jun 30, 2023 9:36:16 GMT -5
im all for game cameras since i hunt multiple wmas i guess i could afford a couple cell cams but i enjoy time in the woods , that and love the excitement of checking them and seeing all the different animals. even though i scout more then most i just enjoy using them and its nice to know theres at least 1 legal buck in your area when you might only have 2 or 3 days to hunt. sucks to find out after 2 days in the stand that the buck making all those scrapes and rubs is a skinny four point when its 3 points per side to be legal , gonna be checking a few cams tomorrow , cant wait
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Post by JS84 on Jun 30, 2023 10:05:11 GMT -5
I have the Gen 1 Tactacam X or XBs. I forget which specific sub-model.
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Post by pinman on Jun 30, 2023 12:27:43 GMT -5
sorry guys i meant live streaming there are cams out there where you can get live streaming in seconds. Live video! That's cool - I used to think I was gonna take a Harbor Freight drive way alarm and kill the noise part, just the red blink when something sets it off - set it up behind me so I'll know when to turn around to see what it is. Being deaf, this seems like a smart thing to me. How deaf - I can't hear the tweety birds, deer blowing at me, or deer rooting around in the oak leaves. Hunting is all visual and sitting there with my head spinning around will spook stuff for sure. You and I think alike on that driveway alarm....
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Post by richm on Jun 30, 2023 13:29:31 GMT -5
Live video! That's cool - I used to think I was gonna take a Harbor Freight drive way alarm and kill the noise part, just the red blink when something sets it off - set it up behind me so I'll know when to turn around to see what it is. Being deaf, this seems like a smart thing to me. How deaf - I can't hear the tweety birds, deer blowing at me, or deer rooting around in the oak leaves. Hunting is all visual and sitting there with my head spinning around will spook stuff for sure. You and I think alike on that driveway alarm.... The receiver unit will receive data from multiple sensors, Mr. Turkeyman. I suppose should explain…. We gave 2 doors where stuff gets dropped off, have sensors at the doors so can get the packages before anyone else does.
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Post by pinman on Jun 30, 2023 18:51:51 GMT -5
You and I think alike on that driveway alarm.... The receiver unit will receive data from multiple sensors, Mr. Turkeyman. I suppose should explain…. We gave 2 doors where stuff gets dropped off, have sensors at the doors so can get the packages before anyone else does. I have one I put in the mailbox when a check is incoming or outgoing so it lets me know the mailbox is opened. Ive thought about using it hunting but like you said, the noise. Its probably simple to disable the speaker .
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 1, 2023 10:07:43 GMT -5
Man, my life is so much simpler than the rest of you guys.
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jul 1, 2023 10:28:33 GMT -5
I really don’t think game camera’s give us much of an advantage. I’ve run cameras on a few different areas in Florida, and mostly getting inconsistent daylight pictures of bucks or all night time pictures. If anything, for me, it lets me know what’s in the area…. Had this camera on a rub and got what appears to be my first legal buck of the year on camera.
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jul 1, 2023 10:30:15 GMT -5
South Florida Attachments:
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 1, 2023 11:34:01 GMT -5
Young deer... let 'em walk.
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jul 1, 2023 12:17:13 GMT -5
Young deer... let 'em walk. I’ve let legal deer walk when my freezer is full , but unfortunately for him it’s empty. He would be going for a ride in the truck if he walks by me. I’m not a trophy hunter.
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Post by One Man Gang on Jul 1, 2023 12:43:24 GMT -5
Young deer... let 'em walk. I’ve let legal deer walk when my freezer is full , but unfortunately for him it’s empty. He would be going for a ride in the truck if he walks by me. I’m not a trophy hunter. Yep, me too.... I wanted you to let em walk so I can kill em...
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Post by bowhunter4life on Jul 1, 2023 13:39:23 GMT -5
I’ve let legal deer walk when my freezer is full , but unfortunately for him it’s empty. He would be going for a ride in the truck if he walks by me. I’m not a trophy hunter. Yep, me too.... I wanted you to let em walk so I can kill em... Oh, I see how you are!… If I decide to keep the permit, I believe it’s the adjacent wma to where you will be. Hopefully you sound like your new name when walking in opening morning, and push them over the property line to me!..😎
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Post by wayvis on Jul 1, 2023 16:22:24 GMT -5
I really don’t think game camera’s give us much of an advantage. I’ve run cameras on a few different areas in Florida, and mostly getting inconsistent daylight pictures of bucks or all night time pictures. If anything, for me, it lets me know what’s in the area…. Had this camera on a rub and got what appears to be my first legal buck of the year on camera. This has been my experience also up here in Northeast Fl. I've run cameras for many years, and it amazes me what deer I see on camera but never see while hunting and I hunt 50-60 days a year on leased land. Just as you say most pictures are at night or very few during the day. Most of the bucks I get on camera are during the first part of the rut. That would be middle of September to end of October. After that most seem to disappear other than a couple of which I will get pics of randomly. Even doe pics are mostly at night. Here's one from the other week:
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Post by james14 on Jul 1, 2023 18:34:46 GMT -5
I really don’t think game camera’s give us much of an advantage. I’ve run cameras on a few different areas in Florida, and mostly getting inconsistent daylight pictures of bucks or all night time pictures. If anything, for me, it lets me know what’s in the area…. Had this camera on a rub and got what appears to be my first legal buck of the year on camera. Like anything else, they're a tool that needs to be used correctly to be of use. Used incorrectly, they can do more harm than good. Getting one picture of a buck means nothing and has caused many hunters to sit a spot, and pass other bucks in vain while waiting for a deer that lives miles away. Also, consider the impact of checking the camera regularly. And, then, you have to factor in the time potentially wasted by checking cams when you could be looking for sign.
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Post by pinman on Jul 1, 2023 18:45:16 GMT -5
Man, my life is so much simpler than the rest of you guys. I call BS. You own an airboat. Theres no way on gods green earth a man that owns an airboat can have a $impler life than a man who doesnt... Thats my story....
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Post by wayvis on Jul 1, 2023 19:17:06 GMT -5
They are a tool and you can learn a lot about when on how deer move. I wished I had this tool when I was younger and had lots of public land to hunt. When I hunted public land I did a lot of scouting and looking for sign. Most of my scouting was done when I was hunting, because I did more slip hunting than sitting in a stand. Unfortunately hunting a lease you can't ramble around much because everyone has their own spots or area. I don't think you can use a game camera wrong or check it too often if you check it during the middle of the day and wear rubber boots. And if you want to see bucks on a camera put it on a scape when they first start making them. You should get pictures of multiple bucks and does. If you find another scape 50 or 100 years away put another camera on it. Sometimes you will get some different bucks on it.
Last year was a strange rut because the deer started scaping like they should, but then after a week or so it was like someone turned the light switch off. They just stop showing up and it stayed that way all season long. Thats what makes deer hunting interesting, fun and hard; you just never know what they are going to do.
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Post by pinman on Jul 2, 2023 9:07:09 GMT -5
Game Cameras are fun and interesting. At least I get to see a buck since I cant get one close to my stand....
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